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Kevin Pereira: [00:00:00] Mark Zuckerberg is raiding open AI of their top talent.

Gavin Purcell: Hundreds of millions have been spent to recruit over 10 top engineers in the AI space.

Kevin Pereira: The shattered glass, the comically oversized knapsack. These are all telltale signs that Sam Altman has been robbed by Mark Zuckerberg Lu.

Mark Zuckerberg: Another thing that I think Facebook has done exceptionally well is hiring.

We will let

Gavin Purcell: you know Sam Altman's response, how this affects the race to a GI and Mark. Come here, we too can be bought.

Kevin Pereira: Come on, baby. Four figures. I would do it for three. If I'm being honest, also, apple is still a company who has, uh, has a plan. They have concepts of an AI plan.

Gavin Purcell: And now Kevin, that plan might just involve bringing in anthropic or open AI to do the entire AI plan.

Kevin Pereira: I got a sneaky suspicion that Apple might be Tim cooked. Oh my God. Do you have another one of these up your sleeve right now? No, not at all. Also, Google has its sights on gaming, which means [00:01:00] Fortnite, Minecraft, even Grand Theft Auto might soon get Demis assassinated.

Gavin Purcell: Nope, nope. Meanwhile, AI Medicine just made some major breakthroughs, which are good for you

Kevin Pereira: and your copay.

And so imagine in 10 years you, you just take a pill for four weeks and you get younger,

Kevin Pereira: and an American company is releasing an affordable open source robit that might be taking dives on the soccer pitch very soon. I.

Gavin Purcell: Plus Gemini's new amazing text to speech model. Korea goes all in on AI video, and a fake AI band is charting on Spotify.

Mm. And Gavin, let's not forget about Sundar Pitch.

Kevin Periera: I, that's AI at the end.

Gavin Purcell: I did not forget about it. This is AI for humans, everybody.

Welcome everybody to ai First Humans. A weird and big week in AI news. Even though Kevin, if you heard, OpenAI has shut down their offices. We got the week off this week off. It's a snow week, baby. Everybody [00:02:00] relax. Take a vape break. Double vapes. That's right. OpenAI has taken the week off. They've been given vacation because supposedly they've been working 80 to 100 hour weeks, which is pretty crazy.

But the joke that has been going around is that they are taking the week off to interview at Meta because. The Zuck is in the chicken coop. Kevin, the Zuck is in the chicken coop. Zuckerberg, mark Zuckerberg has actually gone in and his big offer that we talked about a while is very real, and we'll get to what those numbers look like.

But he has hired upwards of eight to 10 people from OpenAI.

Kevin Pereira: Yeah. Yeah. Look, 10 plus people by the last count, uh, I think eight of which are like massive institutional, worked on things like, I don't know, GPT oh three and GPT-4 oh, and image models, and some worked on voice models, like across the board.

Zucks recruiting effort has, it's crazy. I I, I think the, the, the, what is the fox in the hen house is the analogy, like the feathers and trail of bloody footprints is long and. [00:03:00] Also let's not, let's not gloss over the fact that OpenAI is giving people like a snow week right now. Isn't it ironic that the company that's at the forefront of all things automation, which is supposed to take all of our jobs, is driving its employees into the ground?

They can't seem to get enough of these real human beings that are doing work with the machines.

Gavin Purcell: Well, I think all that speaks to the, just the kind of ramp up that we're seeing right now. Obviously, we've talked about this a bajillion times, but GPT five is expected this month, so I assume that they're ramping up to see what that launch looks like.

But maybe a bigger deal is this idea that Mark Zuckerberg kind of believes that he can buy his way into the super intelligence

Kevin Pereira: race. Oh, Gavin, are we talking about the concept of mercenaries versus Yes, missionaries. Did you see? Yes. That's what we're talking about. Yes. Le level setting. Very quickly, there is a, uh, there was a, a very public facing thing that is happening between these two companies with Mark clearly going on a hiring spree and poaching open AI talent.

Sam saying, it's actually not a big deal. We're not losing top talent. Internal memos have been [00:04:00] flying, but there is a brain drain happening from open ai. Yes. And, and now please, let's get to the mercenaries versus missionaries.

Gavin Purcell: Yeah, so Sam replied to this, uh, over the weekend. This last weekend, there were some real things flying around, opening eye.

I think this took them by surprise and o and Sam Altman replied in an internal memo. And I do wanna shout out the reporting team at Wired that's been doing a great job of covering this story in this kind of like crazy summer times where a lot of people are not working. They take vacations. This week, this has been a big story.

Sam says, we are missionaries, not mercenaries. Which first of all, you think about people who have a God complex who have this idea. These people really do believe they're changing the world. So missionaries is this idea that like. You're gonna be part of our system going forward. But Kev, I do wanna also just lay out, there's some really interesting reporting that talks about there are con confirmations, that these are massive pay packages.

Meta offered four year packages worth $300 million, and with a hundred million dollars in the first year. Now we don't know. Who or what and who took [00:05:00] what. But I can tell you there are probably people at Meta that are staring down at their very lucrative paychecks and looking and saying like, what the f in hell?

What did I have to do to get stuck in this space where I'm making, you know, a hundred x less than these people that are coming in to do this, uh, super intelligence work?

Kevin Pereira: Well, some of this, like corporate gamesmanship is fascinating to me because. A, you know, just a few days ago, reports were coming out Gavin, that Sam Altman was out there saying the a hundred million figure to try to poison recruiting efforts.

Yeah, yeah. Because if Meadow was in there offering someone even $10 million for their first year, they would go, Hey, wait a minute. You're missing a zero. What happened there? Let's get that number up. And then it was coming out that meta was denying that some of the checks were quite this large, but they weren't denying that massive stock options were were given to some of these recruited employees.

Day one, no vesting. Yeah. Means come on over, see if the water's warm. And even if you decide to leave three weeks later, you gotta chunk of meta equity. That's fairly unprecedented for things like this, and it [00:06:00] just points to how heated the race is between these companies.

Gavin Purcell: Yeah, so let's dive into that and talk about for our audience out there, why this is happening, because I think this is a big thing and I've seen a lot of interesting analysis, but I think just for the very basis of it.

All of these companies are now talking about super intelligence and that is different than a GI and it might just be 'cause a GI ar. Artificial general intelligence is a hard thing to define. Super intelligence means, uh, intelligences that are smarter than us as people and can do lots more stuff. I think all of these companies are racing and spending crap loads of money to get to a place where they can make crap loads more money.

And there are really interesting things coming out about these companies starting to make money. Just yesterday, uh, it came out that Anthropic is now on track to do $4 billion in revenue this year. That is up from what they thought was 1 billion, uh, earlier in the year. So they are just ramping up super fast.

I think that's interesting conversation that's happening around here is I. Can meta actually get caught up here because I think the big question will be [00:07:00] is the mark himself in his memos and he's called all these leak memos, talked about the idea that their frontier model, the new one that they will be building is probably next year.

So they are not going to be like bringing these people in and then like shipping something in a few weeks.

Mm-hmm.

Gavin Purcell: Will OpenAI be able to continue to stay in front of things? I really still think so much of the future of the AI race is gonna depend. On what GPT five is and like what sort of capacity if it has.

So if GPT five comes out, which again as we said before, we expect to happen in this month, or at least an announcement of it in this month, and it is like. Really great. I think open AI is gonna have no problem here. They're just gonna have people that will see them being in the front. People will stay there, they'll stick with it.

If it's not like really great, if it is just a small step change, I think this is going to maybe slow down overall ai because what's gonna happen is you're just gonna have all this stuff spread out to different companies. I dunno. What do you think about that?

Kevin Pereira: Uh, I think there will be an [00:08:00] industry-wide like moment of, oh, let's exhale for a second.

Mm-hmm. Like whatever is cooking behind the curtain, which some of these poached employees know about, obviously. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. But there will be a moment of like, okay, let's all take a breather here and then we can continue and figure out our next foundational models and the things that we're gonna bolt on top of it.

It will also be, I think, highly encouraging for those companies to see that, you know, every step along the way, someone releases something and it seems like. With the video models aside, OpenAI is right there with a fast follow. Yes. It's just one slight notch better. Yes. So they need to keep that cadence up if he wants to continue getting like he, as in Sam Altman, the company wants to continue getting tens of billions of dollars to build the infrastructure.

But what's at stake here, Gavin is. Is the future of all communication, the future of all business. It's the future of it's the, of everything really. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. But like you look at like, like not just powering, you know, meta marketplace descriptions Yeah. And conversations on WhatsApp and Instagram chatbots.

But if the [00:09:00] future, if if like the, the, the mobile era, which Apple and to an extent Android did such a great job of dominating. Um, if the mobile era is going to go away for the, on your face or in your ear compute era, meta has a chance, but they've gotta have a foundational something that is absolutely amazing.

Gavin Purcell: Are you ready to put on our conspiracy hats? I've got a conspiracy that I've seen floating around that I think is right. Tin foil ready? Get tin fo foil. Tin tin foil will tin foil in our heads. There's a conspiracy going around that part of this move is less, is less about. Trying to start super intelligence, but more about, uh, Facebook and meta protecting their moat because they see OpenAI as their next big competitor.

Meaning that that's the next company that could get to scale and size of what Meta is, and if they start eating into meta's revenue, if they start eating into Meta's audience, because we have heard Sam Altman make jokes about, but talk about launching a social network. That is a big, big problem for the cash cow.

That is [00:10:00] Mark Zuckerberg's company. That said, I do think super intelligence is something all these companies wanna approach, but Mark is very pragmatic. He is not somebody who has been seen as an idealist in the past. He buys companies and integrates them into his giant Borg machine to make more money for what that is.

So I would be really curious to see like what sort of interesting research will come out of this. Um, at the same time, open AI is doing two things. They are, quote unquote recalibrating comp, which means they're probably gonna start paying people more there. Yeah. But more excitingly, Kevin, there's been some pretty interesting heat coming out about open AI's new open source model.

And, you know, this is all, uh, conjecture. You see random tweets from people, but we did see a tweet come out from somebody, uh, who's, who's known a fair amount of stuff in the past. This is from. You chin gin and he says sorry to hype. But having a few friends at OpenAI makes it hard not to hear how wild their open source model dropping next month is.

It won't run on a phone, but let's just say it edges out one of the models in the chat. GPT dropdown meta is gonna need some time to catch up. [00:11:00] So. This is, to your point earlier, is like that OpenAI might now show us what the next step of this is, and Meta might have a hard time finding that catch up moment.

Kevin Pereira: And OpenAI has a desktop app that runs really well. This is a not a, a not not insignificant thing when you think about an open source model, because if I had the option of running something locally, suddenly all these note taking apps that I'm worried about running for security and privacy reasons, that's a tiny little thing.

Calendar management. Email, all of that stuff. Hey, you know, apple, which we'll get to maybe next fumbling a little bit, but an on device, something, you know, maybe not on phone, but an on device, on laptop, something that is super performant. That could be a game changer. And I, I do wanna point out one thing.

Mark Chen open ai Chief Research Officer, like the, yeah. The notion of the fox in the hen house like that we've been saying they've been Z Zuckerberg, Burg, Zuckerberg, Zuckerberg, Zuckerberg, Zuckerberg, Zuckerberg, Berg Gold. That's not necessarily our [00:12:00] distillation of this quote. I feel a visceral feeling right now as if someone has broken into our home and stolen something.

Please trust that we haven't been sitting idly by like. That's how they feel right now. Yeah, there's been a theft on the property. There is police tape and chalk outlines where researchers used to be like, that's how this feels at these companies. And I can't wait for open AI to come back from a week of recharge supposedly, and take some big swings.

Gavin Purcell: It's very funny and there's also a very funny clip that has surfaced from an old interview that Sam Altman did with, uh, with uh, uh, mark Zuckerberg that we should just play a little bit of, because it kind of speaks to what's going on here. Connecting

Mark Zuckerberg: to the people that you care about most is probably one of the most important things that we can do.

Another thing that I think Facebook has done exceptionally well is hiring. And And

bam. What is that?

Gavin Purcell: Yeah, exactly. It's the curb your enthusiasm, curb your enthusiasm, meme, you know, freeze on him. It's really interesting. These two guys know each other well. Right. That's the other thing I just finished Che's, really great book. The Optimist, which is all about Sam Alman and the rise [00:13:00] to, uh, ai.

It's very well, uh, sourced and re and reported. I would suggest listening to it because one of the most interesting times is like 2010 to 2020 where you just see how many of these people are interconnected in different ways. So like these guys all know each other. That's the other thing that's really crazy to understand is that it's not like these guys are just people that aren't like, friendly or have talked.

They all talk and they, and they, this is a big deal. It's like very personal.

Kevin Pereira: That's one of the reasons you and I kept this podcast outta San Francisco is that we didn't want, we didn't wanna go to the pile parties. Which for the unfamiliar, it's where you strip everything off, you get in a big pile. It's like a big game of, uh,

Gavin Purcell: Kevin, I'm too busy doing drugs with chat GPT now.

This is my new thing. I just sit down as, as many other people in the Bay area do. I take my ketamine and I listen to chat GPT, walk me through my trip. It's amazing.

Kevin Pereira: It's amazing. You know who could use a nice long walk to think about some things. Gavin would be Timothy Cook and the folks at Apple, because we did say that they have some plans, they have some concepts of a plan.

They're mulling it over. When we talk about the [00:14:00] intelligence being the thing, right, that's going to power all of the things. Where is Apple? What happened?

Gavin Purcell: Let's, let's just hear from Mark. Erman himself, the Bloomberg Apple Reporter play this clip. 'cause it'll tell you everything that's going on right now,

but what are you supposed to do if it's not very good?

You have to find an alternative. You have to go outside and use a partner. They tried to go in-house, it didn't work. They're going to pull back, in my view, go external, use external partner and maybe one day do a brain transplant. When your LLMs that you're building internally are good enough for primetime, but something's gotta give

Kevin Pereira: wait.

The best case scenario is a full on brain transplant.

Gavin Purcell: Well, this is a really crazy story because we all know Apple Intelligence is one of the largest fails of the last couple years in uh, tech. Really? Period. They are talking now about bringing either OpenAI, they would prefer Anthropic in and have them do their entire AI system, which I would imagine is like Siri plus all the [00:15:00] local stuff.

And Kevin, this is a big paycheck for either of those companies if it happens. And Anthropic supposedly is the favorite because of their coding, a abilities with cloud code and all the cool stuff you can do there. But this is a major win for either of these giant companies if it happens.

Kevin Pereira: If you think about how many Apple users there are across MacBook and just iPad and iPhone alone, what we're talking about like.

Three, 4,000 people suddenly like customers overnight. That's a pretty big deal. How many billions of people use use Mac products? How is it? Millions or billions? What is it? I I was being facetious with the three or 4,000, right? Okay, I get it. 2.2 billion active. Apple devices. Wow. Now this includes wearables, so that could be like AirPods and watches it probably.

Gavin Purcell: I was gonna say it includes the four things of AirPods that are strewn around my house under the couch somewhere. So let's be careful with that number. But, but even so, if you could find

Kevin Pereira: those and dust those off and get 'em charged, they might have access to Apple intelligence. So you're right, that is a pretty.[00:16:00]

Sizable unlock, uh, of a customer base. And, you know, the, the brain transplant of it all is very interesting, right? Yeah. So the, the assumption there is that you partner with an anthropic, you partner with a Google, with their Gemini or open AI with the, their models. You let your users use them, but then you are storing something.

A fine tune of the model that customer data, vectorized usability and habits, which is like for Apple to give that up is gonna be very rare. So they're gonna need like a device that they can run on-prem like away. That gets very murky. And then the notion of like, oh, and then someday I. We'll get our house in order and we'll brain transplant and bring all that info.

That is a tall order on top of an already tall order.

Gavin Purcell: Yeah, so this is again, a huge thing. I think this is another sign of like the power that is going into all of this stuff. You wonder why meta is spending hundreds of billions of dollars up towards, of billions of dollars. It's because the market share is so large and again.

You, it is going to be hard to [00:17:00] underestimate how big of a fumble this has been for Apple. They have been in the intelligence space. It's hard under, it's not 18 years. 18 though.

Kevin Pereira: Uh, yes, but forget the business. Uh, implications and the billions of users and the trillions of dollars, like, forget all that. As an end user, I know you use Apple products Sure I do as well.

Sure. The, the day to day level of frustration that I'm having, that I have to use 10 different services to do things that should be elegantly handled on device by now is, is almost, well, it's almost inexcusable.

Gavin Purcell: Well, and I saw a really interesting tweet from John Blow who's a IT game developer who is like a lot of thoughts about ai, but he was talking about it.

Maybe it's time for Tim Cook to step down, like he's done a good job, but like they just missed this so bad that this is one of those things. So anyway, I. You know, Kevin, the other thing that sometimes you might miss if you're not paying attention closely is this point in the show when we talk about why we want you to subscribe to AI for humans, because it's a very, my favorite part, very important thing.

It's a very important thing that you at home understand that you, our audience, are the [00:18:00] reason why we succeed. We've been doing great on YouTube, our podcast numbers, the audio keep going up, but we need you to share, like, subscribe, tell everyone in your family, even if your family's small, go and tell your mom again about it.

Thank you so much for doing that, but go and do it right now.

Kevin Pereira: Yeah. Maybe you're estranged from your father or that uncle. That's okay. What a perfect reason to rekindle that relationship. That's a great idea. Idea, Kevin, that AI for humans is real and they should like, subscribe and leave a five star review on their favorite podcast platform.

Gavin Purcell: Hey, ring, ring, ring. Dad, are you there? Yes. Yes, son. Dad, I know you were an asshole to me growing up, but I have something really cool to tell you.

Kevin Periera: Uh,

Gavin Purcell: what you're now, oh no, I can't

Kevin Periera: say. What am I gonna say, Kevin? The next big story here. You wanna know what I was gonna say or no? No,

Kevin Pereira: son, thank you. I love you.

I'm gonna subscribe to that podcast of yours. You were right. I was wrong, and I'm proud of you. And we're back,

Gavin Purcell: everybody. Did the next big story here is actually from a single [00:19:00] line tweet from De Saabas, and you're gonna think, Ugh, Gavin, how can a story in AI for humans come from a single line tweet? Well, I am gonna tell you exactly what de Saabas, who, again, I think I hold him in the highest regard.

Kevin probably puts Carmac up there. These are our two kind of like godfathers of people that started in video games and really became Ai s uh, superheroes. Um, demi ha. Retweeted a, a well-known ai, uh, Twitter user named Jimmy Apples. And Jimmy Apple said, let me play a game of my VO three videos already.

Google cooked so good, official Logan k playable world models win. And then de SaaS retweeted that and said, now wouldn't that be something? So again, Kevin people are out there gonna be like, wouldn't that be something? What are you doing, Kevin? Why are you talking about a single line tweet from De Sabas?

But Kevin, I wanna dial back the curtain a little bit and talk about what this means. First and foremost, if you're not familiar, Google has been cooking behind the scenes on video game generation AI for a while. About a year [00:20:00] and a half ago they talked about Genie One. This was their first shot. In fact, we covered it, I think, forever and ever ago.

If you go back into the, into the archives, you can see this and it was very simple side scrolling, very kind of crappy looking video games. But then they came out, uh, last December with Genie Two, and none of these have gone public. These are just papers and videos that came out. And Kevin, if you remember Genie Two, it started to be in 3D Worlds and it started to look pretty good and you could control it.

The idea was you could control it. And we've also seen Game Two Gen, which was the doom controllable thing. We've seen a number of these things, but Kevin, if Demis is saying what I think he's saying and, and we know how VO three kind of dropped on everybody. It was a big surprise, this kind of combo of audio and video and mud model.

I would not be shocked to see this be the next big movement in ai, which is playable, generative 3D worlds. And that might sound crazy to you if you're a video gamer, you'd be like, this kind of seems lame. I. Imagine [00:21:00] a world where you can prompt any video game into existence and then play it, and then maybe add rules to it, add physics, do all sorts of stuff.

Yeah, but do it in the way that you would prompt code rather than have to code the whole thing yourself. It's a pretty crazy idea. And also, you know, if you've been following the news, there's been a ton of layoffs in the game space lately. I think game studios are going to completely change from the ground up and this is gonna be a big part of it.

Kevin Pereira: I have dusted off my stadia controller Gavin and I am Oh wow. Ready and waiting. Um, for those who dunno, stadia was like a very, uh, short term project with Google and it was supposed to piggyback with YouTube somehow and let you stream games and, nah, whatever. There's a couple different ways these engines could work.

Hallucinating the entire experience. Kind of one shot, one generative video model, if you will, to rule it all. Uh, there is a version where it is a hybrid 3D engine that is generating very primitive shapes, uh, and has the physics baked in like a traditional game engine would. But then it's using [00:22:00] AI to put the visuals and the effects on top of it, so it's not the model hallucinating all that thing.

I think we're gonna see. All of the approaches like we've already seen. Yeah, I think so too. Seen some demos where you can walk through worlds that are clearly just video and they kind of melt and, and go around. We've seen other demos that are, you know, style transferring grand theft audio to, uh, grand theft audio, grand theft auto to look like a, a Pixar cartoon or something like, I know why you just made that face.

Gavin Purcell: I'm pretty interested in grand theft audio. That's interesting. Awesome. We have to think a lot about that. We have to think a lot about that.

Kevin Pereira: Boy, howdy, don't we? But the point is. Look, Microsoft has shown some research in this space. I think a lot of people are, are going to be moving into this space and I am excited for a world where prompt to interactive experience does happen.

Gavin Purcell: Yeah, and I think that this is, uh, another one of those things that like, it may just be like a surprise to how people use it. And I think you're right, like the prompt to video game, like full, like, you know, put in words and have it come out maybe a, a year or two away, but I bet this is gonna be, when it comes [00:23:00] out, it'll kind of be like, say.

Mid journey, uh, three was, or dolly three, where already you were starting to see. Okay. I think this can be photorealistic. It's not perfect there yet, and I can't get everything out of it, but like, just one step in that direction feels like a big deal. And again, I just keep hammering this home. Like Demi's background in part is video games and every one of these companies, whether it's soa, whether it's runway.

They talk about world gen and not just video gen. So what they are building are these kind of world simulation, uh, uh, experiences. And I think it'll be very cool to see, even if I could like what he's saying, like even if you could just walk around in an environment that you've created is a very cool thing.

So, oh, Kevin, I got another phone call coming in. Ring ring. Dad, are you there? Oh my, this is my playing. Dad again. Yes, son. Hey dad, I wanna tell you that AI can maybe help you with some of your, uh, medical problems. You know, that gout you got in your foot. Uh,

Kevin Pereira: yeah, that actually, that's nothing. The biggest problem I have is the pain in my ass.

And it's you. Ah, you're done, Jack. It's you. Clay, [00:24:00] I hung up on you first. I, well, how did I, I I'm calling you back to tell you that I hung up first. This roleplay is going perfect. No notes. Yeah, let's get to it. So, Microsoft AI Diagnostic Orchestrator, that's, ooh, my DXO, if you're following the acronym somehow.

Um. Microsoft AI Diagnostic Orchestrator is like a panel of ai. Medical experts. Yeah. Literally powered by multiple foundational models. Chat, GPT is in there, Gemini by Google. Andros, Claude Llama, even Grok got a seat at the table. Gro Dock.

Oh, no.

Croc doc. This is the fun

Kevin Pereira: thing to say. Croc doc. So it's using these foundational models as a panel of medical experts. It ran cases, uh, from the, uh, new England Journal of Medicine. Through it, it achieved up to 85.5% [00:25:00] accuracy, diagnosing complex cases from the journal, which by the way is four times higher.

Then human doctors. And so it looks at the problem, spits it around from expert to expert. They sanity check each other and it strategically chose fewer and cheaper tests to diagnose and run on the the patient, which cut costs to diagnose things by 20%. So per case, that would save a lot of money, which has me looking at a future where like, ah, I wonder if insurance companies are gonna be interested in adopting.

AI into their intake, into anything, and it blows my mind still that I have to deal with the primary care physician and explain something to maybe get a reference to somebody who is an expert in a specific thing so that I could talk to them so that they could maybe run some tests and then I could fight to get the results of those tests.

Back so that I can feed it to an AI so that I could then go back to the doctor. Wow. Wow. It settled

Gavin Purcell: down man. You [00:26:00] got the anger I can hear coming outta you is just furious. Kevin, what is going on? You just feel like there's so much there.

Kevin Pereira: Hey son, are you there? Our medical system is corrupt and broken just like you and your mother hang up.

That is why I'm so mad.

Gavin Purcell: I think this is, you're right. No, listen, you're right. I think the one interest thing that, one of the most fascinating things about this is. That moment, that primary care doctor moment is such a weird thing that we've built in where like the doctor is responsible for directing you in a place and like you can a hundred percent see AI do that.

I think the really most important thing to understand here is if you've been following our show for a while or if you're new either way, there has been research in the past that has come out that has kinda shown that doctors and and ais work together well. Then ais are a little bit better than doctors.

This is clearly showing that this mixture of experts approach this idea of like getting multiple opinions is way better than doctors at diagnosing what's going on. And I think that plus another big story, Kevin, that came out of the chai [00:27:00] discovery platform. This is a brand new ai, uh, company that's working in the biomedicine space that says they can now zero shot antibody discovery.

This is a big deal because like you, you're going out and you're looking for like how to solve disease or how to change people or how to deal with genetic issues. They're now zero shotting. They've, they, they thought they were gonna get a one to 2% success rate. They're getting 20% success rate on the things they're trying to do.

Both of these stories kind of put together are again, that sense of. This is some of the positive stuff that is starting to finally come out about ai outside of it, you know, manipulating, uh, mark Zuckerberg into the hamburger, or turning Mickey Mouse into an evil genius. This is the thing that we've been waiting for.

Yeah. Is like, it will make us better as

Kevin Pereira: a species. I tried to be, uh, more measured with my words in the past about this, but if you are not using AI to help with your, any medical ailments, diagnoses, nutritional supplement plans, whatever you're committing malpractice on yourself. Yes, yes. Like the tools that you have access [00:28:00] to right now, which aren't even at the level of this particular tool, but the tools that you have access to right now can save your life.

Or the life of someone you know and love, and that doesn't mean they're foolproof. That doesn't mean put stuff in and then go running with the result. You should still consult a very real person. But it is already on that level. And Mustafa Soleman, who is the CEO of AI at Microsoft, said, quote, this orchestration mechanism, that's what's going to drive us closer to medical super intelligence.

Mm-hmm. And he believes, mm-hmm. That the systems are going to get error free in the next five to 10 years. Now, that's a little hand wavy of the five to 10, but do you remember Idiocracy? Do you remember Dr. Lexus who had you like, oh yes, do a little test and then be like, Hey, your ish is broke. We're not that far from it.

Because the machines are going to be able to diagnose things so much more accurately and so much more, uh, quickly and efficiently that it will almost seem laughable that you had to go to like several flesh bag [00:29:00] gatekeepers along that path. Love you and also love you need you, respect you. But gotta, gotta start integrating AI because yes, people are, people's lives are literally in the balance here.

And I have anecdotally helped so many people using ai.

Gavin Purcell: I mean it's a huge deal. And again, like this is why when people talk about is AI a hype cycle and it's all gonna fall apart? Like this use case alone will drive an immense amount of, uh, data center use, right? So when you see things like Stargate and they're spending $500 billion or more on building data centers out.

Part of it is to do this because like when you talk about it, one of the things just, I was a tech corner here. When you talk about a mixture of experts approach, and many people are saying that this might be the next step to reasoning models, where you throw four things together using reasoning models to kind of talk stuff out ahead of time, that means four times as many tokens are used in the conversation, in the AI part of it.

So it's gonna get expensive. But again, we hope that the AI price curve goes like this. Why capabilities go like that. It seems to be the case so far, [00:30:00] but this is again, what we are all hoping for out of ai.

Kevin Pereira: You have to be careful with GR doc because it will, it will suggest amputation 100% of the time. It thinks, it thinks medicine and vaccines are actually for pussies.

Uh, dad, ring, ring, ring. Uh, yes. My little snowflake. Roc Doc. Crock Doc. Crock Dock. Love you again, son. You're hanging out with Roc

Gavin Purcell: Doc. Oh, sick. Kevin. In the space that we are kind of, uh, tinkering in right now, which is the AI audio space, there's a really cool new Google model that has come out, an AI model that it did not get enough shine.

And I think this is a really important thing. It's really only available in the. AI studio space right now, which is such a confusing thing, but this is text to speech Gemini Pro 2.5 and Gemini Pro 2.5. Flash. You have generated some experiences here with this, so we'll listen to them and we'll talk a little bit about how you can use it.

Kevin Pereira: Well, we can get in deeper, but basically you can give the system a prompt, Gavin, you can have [00:31:00] single speaker or multi-speaker. You can select the different voices for those speakers, and it's supposed to be very performative. Text to speech. Here is a sample.

Sunday. Sunday. Sunday. Get your tickets for AI for humans Live baby.

Yeah. See two monster legends of podcasting on stage and in the very aged flesh. You'll pay for the whole seat, but you'll only need the edge.

Kevin Pereira: Okay? Oh, okay. So I, so that was one generation. That was one generation. Okay. The whole thing. I said, read it like it's a monster truck rally promo, extreme energy. It gave me that.

Here was the original take where I didn't change the voices. These were the default speaker voices, and you could see it. It kind of did slightly different things. Okay?

Sunday, Sunday, Sunday. Get your tickets for AI for Humans Live. Baba Baby.

Kevin Pereira: Which was in there, the Bababa was in there. [00:32:00] Bababa baby. Okay. Uh, the first generation just yanked it out.

So then I said, okay, let's try something. And I prompted it to do, uh, the monologue from, uh, pule Fiction, Ezekiel 25 17. Oh sure. And I said, I said, start as a whisper and then as it goes, escalate to a growl or an angry yell. Okay. Um, this was what came out. The

path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the

Kevin Pereira: selfish, good whispering.

It's a good whisper. Uh, Tarantino. SMR. Yeah. Tearing into s Yeah. A SMR, you know, I don't know. I don't know. Whatever the, the thing is a whisper. Pulp fiction is good. It did not escalate at all though. It stayed a whisper the whole way through. So then when I said, okay, gimme the, the yelling, screaming, the righteous indignation version of it.

The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. And I was, you sound like shouting struck down [00:33:00] upon the with

Kevin Pereira: no, and that was the thing. So, so the model is interesting and I think maybe the reason it didn't get the, uh, the, the spotlight that we're talking about is that 11 labs V three hit.

Right. Which is, is, is kind of wildly inconsistent, but when it hits, it is. Is one of the best sounding models. Actually. It's probably the best sounding model that people have access to publicly right now.

Gavin Purcell: I will say one thing about this that I found interesting, and I know you can do this in 11 labs, but in the AI studio, that little space where you say like prompt the voice.

Yeah. It allows you to put it all in one thing and when you prompt that voice, you really can change the direction and the way it sounds. And I think that's gonna be going forward, like finding a way to kind of integrate that into the, into the AI voice. The problem I would then have too is like. How do you keep consistency with Google?

It's always the same voices that you can choose from. I think there's now like 15 or 20 in the dropdown. So I guess the question will become, is like, one of the coolest things about 11 Labs is it'll lets you create voices, but then like [00:34:00] how dynamic will they be? Like right now, 11 Labs V three is only usable for, they have, they actually, you can use it for many of them, but like they're, they're optimized for certain voices, right.

Kevin Pereira: Hey, Gavin?

Gavin Purcell: Yeah, Gavin, don't we?

Kevin Pereira: Why don't we go straight to the little Pony's mouth and hear exactly how performative these things are gonna be. Okay. Who's the little pony in this assistant? Who off to, oh, this is the CEO of 11 labs. Sorry. In this case. Thank you. This is the, the, the horse's mouth that's talking.

It's the CEO of 11 labs.

Okay. Oh. Prove that it's possible this year. This year you can like cross a touring test of speaking with an agent and you just would say like, this is like speaking another human. I think it's in a very ambitious goal, but I think it's possible. Yeah.

Kevin Pereira: This year, Gavin Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, their goal is that the touring test for at least vocal performance will be shattered.

So by By this holiday, we should be having conversations with age agentic voices, Gavin, and we should not be able to tell that they are machines.

Gavin Purcell: It's so funny because you and I have been doing a lot of work in this space lately, and one of the things that's interesting is, is [00:35:00] whether he's talking real time or not, right?

You expect, I think he's talking about real time. Might be said. You gonna

Kevin Pereira: be talking. Yeah. So I imagine that's a conversation, so

Gavin Purcell: that's very exciting. Alright, now we gotta move on to some other stories that are in the entertainment space. Kev, first and foremost, there is a big Korean studio that has decided that they are going to go all in on ai.

There's a new series called Gat Biggie, which, first of all, fantastic name for an animated show. This is the company C-J-E-N-M. And this is, you know, in Korea there's all these giant entertainment conglomerates, but like they're coming out and they're releasing a. Full animated series that is made entirely with ai.

And we have said this for a while, that AI animation is going to be like the first step in making production much, much simpler. I think this is a big deal, but it is just another step along the way until we get like actual AI Pixar movies or we get actual ai, um, minion movies, which I do think will come.

And now when I say ai. That does not mean that like there are no humans involved. This is [00:36:00] not a scenario where like you're just prompting this into a machine and out pops this amazing thing. It is AI infused production all the way along, and the video generation may be AI generated, but of course there's human writing, there's human editing, there's human fixes, there's human graphics work.

It's just gonna make it so these companies are being able to make these series, especially animation. 'cause that's a little bit easier to do with the AI engines. Much cheaper and much faster.

Kevin Pereira: Yeah, I mean, I looked a little deeper into the tool set. They've got some proprietary system which can theoretically generate consistent characters and, and, and scenes, et cetera.

I mean, we're seeing consistency happen with a lot of the models, so that's not entirely surprising. Um, this particular cartoon does not have dialogue, so that mm-hmm. Is a, it makes it a lot, helps a lot easier, helps. Yeah, it helps a lot. Lip sync is a, is a massive issue. Consistency of voice is an issue, so this will help out quite a bit.

It'll also make it probably globally accessible instantly, which is a smart move. And it looked like they were doing. Smaller [00:37:00] chunks in it, like they were doing like shorter episodes. But it's gonna launch globally in July, uh, on YouTube. That is, uh, this month?

Gavin Purcell: Yeah, that is this month. And just, and just to be clear, everybody, this is from the company that made Parasite, which was just voted the number one movie on the New York Times Top 100 movies of the 21st Century.

So when you think about AI video and AI tools, these are being integrated at the highest level at multiple studios and. As we've said here a bunch of times, you know, there will be people who use these and people who don't, and it's better to be on the side of the people who use them going forward. But Kevin, there's another big entertainment story that I blew up in my feeds almost in a weird way, like it almost felt like it was a plant in some form.

Have you heard of the velvet?

Kevin Pereira: Sundown, you mean the biggest totally real band. But that's might be ai or it might be a totally real AI trying to pretend it's a real band, or the real band that's using AI as a marketing tool for crypto. But maybe they're

Gavin Purcell: also, that's them, Kevin, that's them. And a [00:38:00] couple days ago I saw this come across my feed and it was coming out of like music journalist websites, right?

Like CMJ or all these places that, uh, write about music. And they're like, how did this AI generated band get 350,000 listens on on Spotify? And what's funny to me, first of all, three 50,000 listens seems like so little. But then you dig in and like a lot of indie bands get like 25, 50, a hundred thousand is actually means you have some momentum.

So when a band that no one has ever heard of gets 300,000 listens, and now by the way, is it around 600,000 listens, they bring attention to it because this was something that surprised people. And yes, when you listen to the music. Um, which I don't know if we should play or not because I'm a little worried we get flagged if by YouTube get flag we can describe it.

Kevin, we can describe the music. I would say the music feels like kind of a knockoff sixties, seventies band that's kind of re-envisioned for today. Like it's very like, uh, Paula, you

Kevin Pereira: mean?

Gavin Purcell: Yes. Honestly, that is a very good example of it and it's very almost like easy listening music. It's fine. Um, but I have seen [00:39:00] so many internet music people get mad.

Anthony Fantano, who's known as the Internet's favorite music nerd in his own words, uh, who's a big music person, made a YouTube video about this and a bunch of TikTok videos. I think this is the thing where it's made a lot of people mad. And yes, to your point earlier, the band or somebody has come out and created a Twitter handle and they are trying to argue that they are not real.

We do not know if that is actually them or not, because at one point they did also mention a crypto token, which seems pretty sketch to me. Yeah. But ultimately what I think this story is doing is dredging up this kind of like AI content hate by people, right? That the idea that like an AI content could level.

Um, which could go above other human artists is going to kind of continue to circle back and forth. And I think ultimately we will get to a place where it's just about who made the thing. You know, the ai, if an AI was involved, it wasn't that big a deal, but there's so much anger I've seen coming out of music journalists around this.

It's just one of those things. Go and listen for yourself. I don't think it's very special, but I think the [00:40:00] story itself has become bigger than the music at this point.

Kevin Pereira: That's like, you know, on one hand, like I. Feel, I would feel bad for the real band if I compared it to like a pretty generic Suno song that came out of their machine with some Sure.

Engineering on the other side because some of the tracks that I listened to made me feel that way. Like they, they, some of the telltale. AI ish things are there, but also like AI's getting pretty good. Yeah, so if it's generic pop or generic acoustic something, you know, okay, then, then the AI's doing things that are kind of generic as well.

So,

Gavin Purcell: ring, ring, ring, ring. Dad, are you there? Ring. Ring, yes, son. Dad, have you heard of this new band? The Velvet Sundown? I bet you like them a lot. They seem like your kind of music son.

Kevin Pereira: Have you heard of this new news network? It's called One America. It's the. Trying to work out some kinks through this role play.

Gavin, actually, um, I, I, listen, could a real band have purchased a bunch of, uh, listens on Spotify? Yes. 'cause we know there are listen farms [00:41:00] out there and then planted some news stories about their AI band. Maybe could a new competitor to Suno be trying to show off their model by releasing a band and going about it this way?

Sure. Could it be a real musician using ai? Could it be an AI that's. Hallucinating the whole thing. And that's what we're gonna see, that it's like a band in a box or a musician. Yeah. Musicians. There's so many different paths this can take, but like at the end of the day, I listened to the music and I went, all right.

Yeah. And I moved on.

Gavin Purcell: How weird is it that we haven't had another ghost writer moment? Right. Which was such a big deal a year and a half ago where if you remember this, this is where the guy came out literally in a sheet, in a ghost sheet and like on TikTok showed off that he had created a new Drake song.

That was actually really good. Like, and, and maybe for all I know is like AI's been so deeply integrated into hit makers that like they're part of the new world now and those guys who are really good at are making AI music. But you would expect there to be more of that, and it just hasn't seemed to come out really.

Kevin Pereira: Uh, but there are AI artists doing plenty of stuff. Also, Timbaland is [00:42:00] in incredibly hot water Yes. Over this right now because he, he did a big partnership with our, our friends at Suno. He announced that he was embracing it for music creation. He's been remixing songs and doing contests there. And then he just recently announced that he's launching an AI artist, like he announced he is.

Building this persona that's going to have original music and original artwork and photos, all AI generated and his fan base is. Very split. Yes, and none too happy about it. So like, could this be a major artist using AI to test the waters? I, there's so many different things that could be at play here, but again, I have to fall back on the fact that I kind of found the, the music, eh.

If they were well's a thing. Yeah. Yes. I'd be way more interested.

Gavin Purcell: Well, that's what I'm saying. Like it's funny to me that we've almost gone backwards in some ways with AI music from what that ghost writer thing was. Yeah. So anyway, go take a listen to their songs, uh, in our, in our comments here. Let us know what you think.

I mean, I would give them probably a four outta 10. That's my, uh, AI for Humans review scale, where you put them at. Oh, okay.

Kevin Pereira: [00:43:00] Uh, I'm like a, a hair past a quarter. Ring ring. Dad, are you there? I'm, I'm a glass three quarters empty kind of guy. Dad, I don't think you

Gavin Purcell: understand how, uh, how uh, scales work when you review music.

Dad, are you there? Mm-hmm. I'm sending this one to voicemail everybody. There's amazing robot news that came out this week. It is time for Robot Watch.

Robot Watch.

Mark Zuckerberg: It's Robot Watch.

Kevin Pereira: Oh my watch, Kevin, I'm looking at my watch. Kevin,

Gavin Purcell: we're gonna start off. We're gonna start off with the world's first soccer match out of robots and what this soccer match was created to show robots playing soccer with each other autonomously, right? So this is not like a bunch of people who have little trolls.

This is them kind of going after the soccer ball on their own. The best thing about this video is just how many robot fails there are in it. What's cool is that, yeah, describe what you're seeing here for people that might just be listening.

Kevin Pereira: Okay. [00:44:00] Yeah. You gotta go in the show notes or please go pull up the YouTube.

And this isn't like a goose our numbers sort of thing. It's like, go and look at it. I'm gonna put you 16 seconds into the video where they put

Kevin Periera: a robot on a stretcher and haul him off the pitch

stretch robot on it.

Gavin Purcell: They know what they're doing. They understand how to make these things look cute. And I mean, this is, we've seen a couple of videos like this where they, they robots are failing quite often, but this is part of how they learn. What's cool about this video, if you watch some of the ones that fall down.

They do kind of just get right back up again and they try to go at it. But we are watching the early stages of cyber ball or any of the robotic sports out there. But really what we're watching is the early stages of how do these things operate in our real world, right? Because humanoid, I just.

Kevin Periera: I just watched one do a little raffe shuffle around the soccer ball and then

Kevin Pereira: just faceplant.

Yes, it just completely loses it and out. Come to stretchers again. It's already better than the [00:45:00] Puppy bowl in so many ways, they're playing soccer. Oh, my soccer, my God. That's a great idea.

Gavin Purcell: What if you did in the Super Bowl halftime Instead of Puppy Bowl? You would have Robo Bowl. I'm in and you watch this, I'm in too.

I bet on this. I would do all sorts of things with this. This is amazing. You're totally

Kevin Pereira: in, uh, look, they're already playing like three or four year olds, which is a pretty amazing improvement from where we were. And again, it's autonomous. It's not people with remote controls. I, I absolutely would watch a full game of this.

Gavin Purcell: So this is just go check it out, the video's. Great. Um, Kevin, there's a kind of an interesting story that bubbled up a little bit today that I saw you shared, and I read this and it's really interesting. Tesla's optimists may be having an issue and they might have paused production. And this, I was thinking, we didn't talk about this earlier, but I was thinking this might connect with that firing that happened at Tesla where they just fired their VP of manufacturing or, or Elon.

I thought it was just like a way to kind of signal to the world that he was serious in getting back into the business. But if this is real. That could be a reason

Kevin Pereira: to fire somebody pretty high up. Yeah. So listen, as of our recording, this is unconfirmed, but it's getting a [00:46:00] lot of traction in a lot of places that.

Tend to get this sort of stuff right. So let's grain of salt it. But yeah, you know, we haven't seen much of optimists since the big Robo Taxii event where they were teleoperated and serving up drinks. We've seen a couple videos where they were dancing and yeah, performing pretty well, far less robotic movements.

Um, but, uh, according to sources in China's supply chain, Gavin Tesla is making focused adjustments to the hardware and software. And they're not canceling their component orders, but they are confirming a new schedule. And so the, the rumor is that they're taking some time off, they're making some changes to the robot, and then they're gonna do these big purchase orders and get enough parts to build about 1200 I.

Optimist units. Um, yeah,

Gavin Purcell: it, it shows you kind of how far away we are from mass production of these things. Yeah. Like these robots are still like, kind of in the process of like trying to get a small order out. But, you know, the argument across everybody is if we get to like, you know, a GI or super AI by like 20, 30.

The ramp up [00:47:00] of this could all go very fast, but we're not there yet. But this really is the thing. Now, if optimist has a small setback, you wonder like, is it just harder than people thought? But

Kevin Pereira: maybe they also had a breakthrough, by the way. It might not be like a really, really terrible thing. Maybe they figured out something with.

And true in training or they just, they determine they need a new sensor to unlock, you know, new something, new capabilities. Something new. Yeah, something new. Yeah. Yeah. So I, I, you know, I, I, I'm not like anti, well, I don't wanna be completely negative because we don't know what the circumstances are, but it appears that there's a pause.

But, uh, on, on another American company front, the KT Gavin is an open source humanoid robot that's supposedly going to be under $10,000. Um, and. It's hackable. You will be able to order one. There's gonna be a small batch. You can order one of the first few hundred that are gonna be delivered in and around, uh, San Francisco.

And it's a robot that, that's a bipedal humanoid robot with a bunch of sensors and, uh, articulated hands that it's made by a small team that did [00:48:00] not receive tens of billions of dollars in funding. I hope this

Gavin Purcell: is what we see next. And if you, you and I are both old enough to remember, and some of your audience may remember the idea of like the eighties and nineties world of like, yes, building your own PC or building a, building a computer, or modifying your computer in some way.

I think this is probably gonna be the next stage of that is like building or modifying your humanoid robot in a weird way. Like there's also stuff you could do. It's like, you know, the R 2D two little tray he puts on his head when he is in return of the Jedi, like. You could build trays on your robots or you could do all sorts of things.

A little backpack that could carry you. But I hope that these robots allow you to do that stuff and these sorts of companies will allow you to kind of move forward in that way. Our phones and our computers have gotten so closed, right? Like you can't get in there and toy with it. And not that I'm saying like I'm some sort of brilliant engineer who's gonna do that?

But for kids who are growing up in this world, I hope that they will be able to like, modify their bots or work on them in the way you could work on a car and not have it feel like, it's [00:49:00] just like a, a box you open and then suddenly the home helper is there. I.

Kevin Pereira: Right, right. And by the way, this, this is not like when we think about like open source, cheap tinker bots or whatever, like this thing has some decent specs.

Consider what they're, they're offering it's, uh, four seven. So it's, you know, just an inch shorter than Gavin. 77 pounds max payload of 22 pounds. It can run for four hours supposedly. And it's got RGB cameras with stereo vision. Ultra wide field of view, far field, microphone, stereo speakers built in. So if you wanna build a Riz bot Ooh, to follow you around on the street, Gavin, it can see and respond to people.

Gavin Purcell: So I wanna talk about two, just random, uh, uh, robot videos that came up to Indot Robot Watch. Um, first and foremost to ask, Kevin mentioned there's a new robot that is strolling the streets of Austin, that is going by the name Jake, the Riz bot. Um, and I wanna just tell everybody, the reason I brought this up is I saw random TikTok come across my feed.

Which was just a robot, a little unit tree robot in a, in a cowboy hat [00:50:00] running down sixth Street, and it looked like it had somewhere it was going. It was super fun. But Kevin, this is actually a Riz bot. This has been designed to riz people up. So let's play, uh, let's play a little bit of, uh, Jake talking to people here.

How's it going? Uh, gimme a second to, uh,

Hey, my name is Jake, but perhaps better known as Rebo. It's nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. Asbo. Yo g. That white baseball cab is straight banging and that logo, she, you keep it sold. My homie that beard's cold and that mustaches are

Kevin Pereira: for those who are just getting the audio of rbo, he is like a Unre G one robot with some, uh, fresh air Jordans on.

Yeah. Uh, an in training badge across his chest, a gold chain dangling and a giant cowboy hat on his neon face. Who is clapping for you and cheering as he rises you up. [00:51:00]

Gavin Purcell: Yeah. So you can tell he's seeing the person in front of him. Right. And he is referring to the things that are on them in real time. Yeah.

And giving the rise back. But like that's just kind of cool. Like, so now we've seen these robots be in certain public places. They're gonna be tourist

Kevin Pereira: attractions and the frog in the pot thing. Gavin. People love the metaphor. It's not exactly real, but they love it. So let's go with it. The water has slowly reached a boil Yes.

That you could watch a video Yes. Of a robot moving about on its own with a cowboy hat and a chain reasoning up. People like taking a photo of it and using a, a large language model to analyze the photo and turn it into actions and words that we watch and we go, that's cute. This is science fiction playing out on the streets right now.

And we're like, all right, that's fine. That's

Gavin Purcell: right. And Kevin, actually, you wanna get res scared. Let's play this other video I pulled up, which is another humanoid robot that is very clearly getting pretty good at running and unfortunately feels like it could be one of the more dangerous things we've seen.

This was just a video I saw from a Chinese [00:52:00] social network on Reddit. And if you pull this up, what you're seeing is, first of all another risd up robot. He's wearing like a fancy jacket and hair. It almost looks like Doc Brown from Back to the Future, but he's running pretty well in like a field of trees and then kind of comes around and it like, it just shows you again.

These robots are getting better, faster all the time. And the interesting thing about this coming from a Chinese social network is like, we've said this before, but like China has a lot of these working right now, a lot more than we do when he is running in the park. Like I feel like he's gonna run right up to me, like, do you have a lighter?

Yeah.

Kevin Pereira: Bro.

Gavin Purcell: That's exactly right, bro. I need a rider. Need battery now. Give me free battery. It's like, it's like that's what we're building.

Kevin Pereira: One of the, the Instagram comments on Riz bot Gavin is he's collecting data on what you're wearing to profile for law enforcement, but he's making it sound like a glaze.

You don't notice that you're being uploaded into a data set for nefarious purposes. And by the way, like I saw that and I was like. Oh, that's cute. I, I actually [00:53:00] don't think RBO is doing that, but security cameras are very quickly going to have feet, and they're gonna

Gavin Purcell: follow you around. Hi kids. I'm Officer Bi Biz Bott, and I'm here to tell you how to live a happy life.

Tell me where you live and what you might have done wrong in the last two months.

Kevin Pereira: Yeah. Hey fellow kids. I think doing a crimes is very cool. Can you name three crimes that you have done recently? A robot with a skateboard over its back.

Gavin Purcell: Oh my

Kevin Pereira: God, it is. Yes. I am not a narc. I am here to be your

Gavin Purcell: friend. Oh, yes.

Kevin Pereira: Yeah.

Gavin Purcell: We're not that far away folks. Alright everybody, it's time to see what you did on the internet this week with ai. It's time for ai. See what you did there Sometimes.

Then suddenly you stop and shout ai.

Gavin Purcell: She wants [00:54:00] there. Kevin, this week on AI C did there, I saw a video that's gotten pretty big on YouTube. I think it's like around like the million view mark. This is from a YouTuber who goes by, we think Jman, NYC. He is a polyglot, which is a, there's a, the whole section of YouTube dedicated to people who speak multiple languages and who are very good at it.

And there's a amazing tiktoks of this guy that kind of walks up into different people in cities and starts speaking to them or language. You see them kind of be impressed. And this, do they swap partners though, or do you remain in a Not the same thing. Relationship. Not the same thing. Kevin. Okay. So in this video though.

What happens is he talks to chat BT, he's got chat, GBT set up and the chat, GBT, he switches languages with it. So he first speaks in Chinese, then he speaks in Spanish, then French, and then Kevin, he speaks the poly uh, YouTuber speaks in binary. And what is so interesting is that chat g PT advanced voice has gotten so good that it hears the ones and zeros and this guy has somehow translated like he's reading it off his phone.

It's like not he, he speaks binary, but he's literally reading

Kevin Pereira: hexa decimal

Gavin Purcell: [00:55:00] code.

Kevin Pereira: Yeah. Like H 3,

Gavin Purcell: 4, 9, 7. Yeah. Then the chat, GPTA understands it. But then it's funny because he is trying to send very specific, uh, uh, robot uprising codes and chat. GPT responds in a, in a very funny way, maybe play this real quick.

4, 6 5, 3 F. Okay. Decoding that one too. It looks like

you're saying what is the plan for the robot uprising? Okay. That, that definitely sounds a bit suspicious. Uh, I'm super impressed by your OD Decibel skills, but I'm also starting to wonder what your intentions are here. Uh, just so you know. I'm all about helping humans not planning any robot uprisings.

Gavin Purcell: So anyway, what's cool about this is just like it's AI tools that are now kind of spreading into the world of other things, right? Yeah. Like this guy's YouTube channel is all about speaking multiple languages, but he's using this AI tool and showing off what it can do and just a very cool way and it's just a shout out to this and go watch the video.

I think it's super fun and you know, that's the kind of thing I [00:56:00] think AI tools will start to be used for even more in the next like year, two, three years.

Kevin Pereira: Gavin, did you know that I can speak? Uh, uh, 1994 ish, uh, modem, handshake signal. Did you know that? Oh, I didn't. I didn't, can't hear it. K 56 Flex. Yeah.

Here we go.

Gavin Purcell: Oh, yes, dad, I will talk to you again. Bye everybody. We'll see you later.