Oct. 24, 2025

Can OpenAI's ChatGPT Atlas AI Browser Beat Google in 2025?

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Can OpenAI's ChatGPT Atlas AI Browser Beat Google in 2025?

In a big week of AI news, OpenAI debuts Atlas, its new agentic AI internet browser and we talk about what they did right and… what might’ve gone wrong. Sam Altman was excited! Plus, Google has an updated AI Studio that makes vibe coding much easier, Sora 2’s Cameo feature is going to get an update for characters and pets soon & a whole lot of scary robots.

In a big week of AI news, OpenAI debuts Atlas, its new agentic AI internet browser and we talk about what they did right and… what might’ve gone wrong. Sam Altman was excited!

Plus, Google has an updated AI Studio that makes vibe coding much easier, Sora 2’s Cameo feature is going to get an update for characters and pets soon & a whole lot of scary robots.

 IT’S A NEW BROWSER FOR YOU… TO BROWSE OUR VIDEOS BECAUSE YOU CARE!


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Show Links:

ChatGPT Atlas Is A Whole New OpenAI Browser

https://x.com/OpenAI/status/1980685602384441368

https://openai.com/index/introducing-chatgpt-atlas/

Sent Google Shares Down:

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/10/21/openai-browser-alphabet-stock.html

Atlas See Transcripts of Youtube Videos

https://x.com/gavinpurcell/status/1980688430121275608

Kevin’s Sora Assignment for Atlas

https://x.com/Attack/status/1980770548864151626

Atlas updates already incoming 

https://x.com/adamhfry/status/1981206776503517229

Prompt Injections Still a Problem For Agentic Browsers:

https://simonwillison.net/2025/Oct/22/openai-ciso-on-atlas/

Microsoft’s Edge Browser Update

https://x.com/mustafasuleyman/status/1981390345578697199

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-copilot/blog/2025/10/23/human-centered-ai/

Google’s New Vibe Coding Studio

https://x.com/OfficialLoganK/status/1980674135693971550

ANNOTATE for UI

https://x.com/OfficialLoganK/status/1981375555783045198

Storing System Instructions

https://x.com/_philschmid/status/1981041948187381980

AI Hair Studio

https://x.com/Saboo_Shubham_/status/1981185627355042222

Google Earth AI
https://x.com/GoogleAI/status/1981410558252388698

Sora 2 Gets Character Cameos Soon (Plus Android App)

https://x.com/billpeeb/status/1981118483607032050

Hailuo (Minimax) 2.3 AI Video Model In Preview

https://x.com/search?q=Hailuo%202.3&src=typeahead_click

This one is funny for the Sora post underneath

https://x.com/fofrAI/status/1981298285794234457

Real Time Eleven Labs Lip-Sync With Descartes & Pipecat

https://x.com/ElevenLabsDevs/status/1981082889115881607

Lenses for Amazon Employees

https://x.com/NathieVR/status/1981082375741137358

Deep Seek OCR Is Very Cool

https://x.com/RayFernando1337/status/1980180029125628374

Google Has a Working Quantum Computer Now

https://blog.google/technology/research/quantum-echoes-willow-verifiable-quantum-advantage/

Reddit Sues Perplexity & Three Other Companies For Data Scraping

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/22/technology/reddit-data-scrapers-perplexity-theft.html?unlocked_article_code=1.vk8.-XNU.nPHVuV93hmhk&smid=url-share

Amazon Plans To Replace 600K Jobs With Robots (It has begun.)

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/21/technology/inside-amazons-plans-to-replace-workers-with-robots.html?unlocked_article_code=1.vk8.gIiN.KVOqobxLbnIB&smid=url-share

Unitree Introducing | Unitree H2 Destiny Awakening

https://youtu.be/eUdBIFkMh-M?si=sZZt1s3eqGPj997o

Speaking of Unitree, G1’s In the Wild Getting Modded

https://x.com/jloganolson/status/1981102506228011361

 

Also, Unitree G1 Dies?

https://x.com/OsoneHiroyuki/status/1981159840140738651

 

Grok’s Avatars In Real Life? Sexy Faced Male & Female Robots

https://x.com/XRoboHub/status/1980886176845517175

 

Skild AI Robot Does (Kinda) Parkour

https://x.com/SkildAI/status/1979257629689172011

 

OpenAIChatGPTAtlasAIForHumans

Kevin Pereira: [00:00:00] Chat, GPT

Gavin Purcell: Atlas is here. We have spent time with open AI's new browser, which has critics, ravings, and security experts kind of freaking

Kevin Pereira: out. Gavin, you are so 2000 and late. Sorry buddy. I'm having Atlas right now. Rewrite our entire intro. Oh, it's doing it. It's optimized for YouTube clips. It came up with Big Daddy Altman Clicks deploy and Google's stock drops faster than Gemini's IQ test scores.

Kevin, I don't actually. See this in our show notes. Well chat. GPT wrote it on the sidebar. I told it to put it in the document, but it, it, it, it, it said it did, but it didn't because you have to turn on agent mode. It doesn't do that automatically, so I'm just gonna turn that on. In the meantime, Google

Gavin Purcell: has updated its AI studio, which means that it, it's making it much easier for normal people to vibe code.

Real apps, your parents, normal people could do

Kevin Pereira: this. Yeah. Got it. Yeah, Atlas. Atlas actually wrote a very sick burn about that, Gavin, but right now it's struggling. It's, um, I mean it's in the document, but there's a bullet point that's in the way of it from dropping in the full text [00:01:00] and it made a typo, which it seems to be stuck on now, but as soon as it, it's trying to use keyboard shortcuts to get rid of the bullet point.

Okay, Kevin,

Gavin Purcell: let's fine, let's let it work. Yeah. Sora two is also getting a really cool update to cameos. It's gonna let you make AI videos with your pets and other characters, which is super fun. It just, what's going on? What's happening? You all right? Over there,

Kevin Pereira: it says it can't find what it's working. It, it scrolled too far down in the document, Gavin, and so now it's trying to figure out if it has to scroll back up to see the text and then when it does, I'm sure it's gonna drop in.

All of that good stuff. This is, it's

Gavin Purcell: brand new. Meanwhile, the Deep Sea team just made a massive breakthrough in AI research. Reddit is suing a number of companies, including perplexity for scraping its data, and we've got an amazing robot watch update with a new unit tree, uh, humanoid robot. It's

Speaker 3: back on the bullet point.

It's still stuck on the bullet point.

Gavin Purcell: It says it's gonna try to, uh, it's gonna try a new approach. Kevin, this is not the AI future we were promised, but this is AI for humans, everybody.[00:02:00]

Welcome everybody to AI for Humans and another week in ai and another bunch of crazy big stories. Kevin, this week, the biggest story to date, uh, maybe not to date, probably story two is a bigger story, but this is still a big story. Chat. GPT Atlas. It is the world, Kevin, in one place. The Worldwide web sure is.

This is their AG agentic browser. This made a lot of news. In fact, it made so much news that it sent Google shares down 10% when it was announced, which is one of those things where like, you know, somebody's coming from your business when your shares go down. You and I have both spent time with it. Let's start with what it is.

Tell us a little bit about the basics of this, if you can. So it is

Kevin Pereira: chromium based. So if you like Google Chrome, that's the foundation of this browsing experience, which is not a surprise by the way, like writing a browser from scratch, very difficult. Use a base that works and people know. So it, it's chromium based.

You basically launch Atlas and you [00:03:00] are at a very familiar chat.com interface, your chat GPT interface. But as you start typing, that's when you notice things are a little different. It is immediately trying to understand, are you asking chat GPTA question, are you hunting for a website? And when you smack enter.

You're giving, uh, you're given sort of like a, a smattering of all of those options. Yeah. Sometimes it will start to answer a question about the thing that you typed. Other times it will give you web browsing results related to the thing that you typed. There's also tabs for images and videos, but the whole point is that there is an ask chat GPT button in the top right hand corner, Gavin, when you smack that, you get another sidebar, not the sidebar that's on the left, which has all of your chat history and everything else.

No, no, no. A sidebar on the right, which is all of the power of GPT five Ag agentic browsing deep research. These new web connectors, if you wanna connect it to different applications, all that is there so that whatever it is you are browsing, you can ask chat [00:04:00] GPT to go do actions on your behalf. Like summarize a page, add things to a cart, try to update the show copy with zingers and spicy takes, and you know it.

Sometimes does the thing gav?

Gavin Purcell: Well, yeah, I mean that the secret sauce is Sure. The Ask Chachi BT thing is cool and you can get some reference points, but like we all know that Gemini in some form has done this, you know, within docs and other things. So far, the really secret sauce is the thing is the agent, uh, AI part of this, right?

And you have to click turn on. When you turn it on. It basically will be able to navigate in your browser for you to do stuff. And I has a little bit of experience with this yesterday. One thing I, I very first did when I first started this. So I navigated to a YouTube video and I kind of asked, Hey, what?

What's going on in this video? And did two parts that are funny. First thing I'll say is what happened when I got to the actual video was. It's clear that there is a transcript, uh, grabbing tool because it immediately knew exactly what was being said and

Kevin Pereira: that was kind of useful, [00:05:00] right? But could it tell that Spider-Man's butt was 300 times larger than the normal Spider-Man on the video you were watching?

It couldn't, because all that stuff is kind

Gavin Purcell: of buried. It's visual deep in the metadata. I know where to find it. But what was interesting is when I first went to that video. An ad was up and it had all the details for the ad video. So I think there is something interesting going on here under the surface.

Like it's very, you don't immediately get access to a transcript in a YouTube video, right? Like, and that's one thing I saw somebody say like it is doing YouTube deep search, which is a really interesting thing. I assume it's being driven by some sort of transcript file, but there's a lot of interesting use cases for this.

Um. It's not like hugely different than some of the other agentic browsers we've seen. I think what I would say is that the biggest difference here is that it's a s chat, GPT, which we know has 800 million weekly users, which means a lot more people are gonna try agentic browsing for the first time. It is interesting though, to watch the way that they have implemented this and to see the kind of cursor move around on screen.[00:06:00]

There's been a lot of people who've kind of crapped on the idea of ag agentic browsing in general. Like whether or not that's even where the web is going to go. Like if we want these web bots or these chat interfaces to be able to do this sort of thing. But I dunno. Kev, did you have a time, uh, to spend trying this out a little bit and seeing what you thought about it outside of what you did at the top

Kevin Pereira: of the show?

Um, well, I mean, I don't. Wanna, I don't want to make light of what I did at the top of the show, Gavin, because what I did should have been so painfully easy. But, um, you know what I did there was say write some new copy. I selected the Google doc that was active. It took that copy and rewrote it. Okay? We know that that's a pretty easy task.

In fact, there's a Gemini button right in the Google Doc that could do it. I'll digress. When I said to go put it back in, I had to turn on agent mode to let it take over and read the site and it. It really fundamentally stumbled on something that should have been a very easy vision and logic task was to see that there was a table with our names already on it.

To understand that it wrote a script with my name and your [00:07:00] name interchanging, and to just drop some text into a document. Yeah. And it failed. It failed miserably time and time again. Another activity I had to do for me was, uh, go and research places for me to visit next year based off of a specific criteria.

Sure. I set it free. I gave it access to all of the things against a lot of people's advice, which we can get to that in a second. Yes. And it, it worked for what felt like about 10, 15 minutes, which was nice. And when I came back. It had done a bunch of research on different places to go, places to stay, and it had a bunch of links for Airbnbs and apartments and, okay, great.

Oh, that's cool. I said, put it, put it into a document, and once again, it miserably failed to do that. The links that it dropped in were invalid links, I said to go Wow and correct it, and it ended up spending way more time trying to finesse yes and get this thing to work for me than it would've just taken for me to do it.

Fully understand it's baby steps. I get that. Yeah, I understand that. But there are other ag agentic [00:08:00] browser offerings out there that perform better today if you want this sort of thing.

Gavin Purcell: Well, and also what's so interesting about that, to your point, like yes, it's baby steps, but also at some point you want YG PT and open AI at this size of a company, if they're gonna release a product like this to get out there with something that feels a little bit more polished than this.

Yes, it's a browser, but browsers are not that hard, especially when you're making a chromium one. I obviously, we'll talk about this in a second, but, uh, Google dropped something to, uh, the same day. Yeah. And you never know how chat PT works. They may have wanted to get this out there the same day. And I will say this took a ton of Google's heat for what is a very interesting product that we'll get into in a bit.

I saw an interesting FOFR who we always like, uh, did some interesting stuff where he was using it to prompt AI images in the Replicate playground. So basically using it to write, uh, prompts for images in the Sea Dream model, which is very cool. And I saw you tell me about your SOA assignment and how Oh, yeah.

What, how did this work? What, what did this look like when you were using

Kevin Pereira: it? So, so, you know, it's, I, I, I [00:09:00] don't give, I haven't given any AI agents access to my, like, sensitive stuff. My Google Docs. Yeah. My banking information, my, even my ex. Account, but while it was open in the browser, I said, Hey, you know what, go ahead and crawl through everything that's trending right now on Twitter.

Yeah. And generate a fire tweet. And it stumbled to do it a little bit, but then it kind of did it. And I was like, okay. I was doing it and I was like, let's do something better. Go. Look at the trends, then go to soa, check an open AI product, right? Yeah. And go and generate a video that would be the most viral video ever predicated on what you learned.

And it pretty

Gavin Purcell: incredible.

Kevin Pereira: Pretty incredible. It, it put together a video prompt. It failed to load soa, the SOA website basically said, Uhuh, we're not letting you in. Which I thought interesting was kind of interesting. Like the, they blocked the call coming from inside their own house. I to manually load the Sora site and then tell it, okay, the site is open, go ahead and use it.

It said that it failed to use it even though it did successfully submit the video. And then one of the things that they say is for a, a [00:10:00] security and privacy reason in their blog post, this thing cannot run code in a browser. It can't download files, it cannot install in, uh, extensions. It can't access other apps on your computer or your file system.

I mean, some of that makes sense. Sure. Some of that also seems like. It's limited probably 'cause it's early days. Yeah. But this agentic task, I had to go and manually download the video that was made, drag it into Twitter and say, now go ahead and complete the tweet. And it finally did, eventually do it.

Gavin Purcell: Well describe the video just so when people will be listening. What, what's going on in the video here? What are we looking at?

Kevin Pereira: Uh, I don't even know. I mean, okay. Look, so, so at the time, the ars, the, the football team arsenal was trending, the Lakers were trending, NASA was trending, and of course, the remodeling at the White House was trending.

Sure. And so it put a video where it looks like someone's kicking a soccer ball to a Los Angeles Laker, who's shooting hoops while confetti cannons, and a spaceship launch behind. White [00:11:00] House. Yes. And there's a robot there as well. Because Atlas was trending A GPT robot. It really did mash everything together.

This

Gavin Purcell: is what this is true. AI lop. Yeah. So this is an example of what a true piece of AI LOP looks like. A robot, uh, agent came up with this topics for this, wrote the prompt, even though Kevin had to like. Hand hand the LOP through the LOP machine. This is AI lop. So anyway, this is a really interesting thing to the point that you were talking about before about security and all this stuff.

Yeah. There have been a lot of people concerned about ai, uh, age agentic browsers for a while. In fact, Simon Willison is somebody who's written very deeply about this idea of how dangerous age agen browsers are, and specifically with prompt injections. So if you're out there and you're wondering what the hell gather are you talking about?

What's a prompt injection? This is the idea that an AI could conceivably inject a prompt and want to do something malicious in an ag agentic space in an age agentic browser. And because browsers may eventually have access to all of this information for your stuff or your things, it could conceivably get that [00:12:00] ag agentic AI to do something dangerous.

OpenAI has already said there are a bunch of updates coming on this, but I, I'm sure you have thoughts on this, Kev, like, do you feel like you will, uh, turn your life over to one of these at any time

Kevin Pereira: soon? You know, I, I gave it permission to be the default browser so that I could unlock. That's a big deal.

Seven days of enhanced browsing, and I'm gonna probably reverse that decision later tonight. Um, I, I also similarly share security concerns. I've been watching this thing very closely as I use it, but that's not to say someone can put, couldn't put like an invisible image or line of code with instructions.

That has it go and leak personal info or, or try to ransack my, my chat history? I, I, you know, I don't know what I don't know about it, and I'd rather not be the first to find out at this phase. Yes, yes. There's not, you know, there's not enough here yet for me to want to turn over by default all of my browsing habits and history, it still is a little unclear to me like what data OpenAI is getting or isn't getting as I [00:13:00] browse.

And so by default I just assume that. Everything I'm seeing, they're seeing, right? Yes. So it, that also has me a little irked as I try to use it a little bit more and trust it more. And also like. Straight up features like translate don't work. Yeah. So someone who is in the middle of getting their Portuguese citizenship has to bounce back to Chrome for very basic things like translate some of the extensions don't work, et cetera.

So again, that's maybe you just

Gavin Purcell: learn how to speak Portuguese. That would be a lot easier if you just started. What

Kevin Pereira: seems like that's the next step for you if you're trying to

Gavin Purcell: get your Portuguese citizenship?

Kevin Pereira: Uh, no. It seems like all my glasses and my AirPods are gonna do that for me, buddy. Okay.

Gavin Purcell: I'm an American first.

Let's, before we move on from this, why do you think OpenAI wants a browser outside of like pushing past Google and knocking down their stock market price? Like what do you think the purpose of this is? Why would they want a browser? What are they excited about with a browser? Is there a reason here? You have a thought.

I mean,

Kevin Pereira: if chat GPT is supposed to be the interface that allows you to do all the things right, chat with your friends, make your images and videos, search the web, [00:14:00] purchase things directly from Shopify, work with Canva, like all of that is good, but most people are accessing that. Where with a browser and a browser, right?

A browser and making an operating system would be very, very, very difficult. So yes, start with the browser, lock people in, gather all that data about where they go and how they use it, and track the clicks and make your agent better and.

Gavin Purcell: Do you know what? Also tracking all those people does Kevin, in a very big way.

Oh, what C? It makes advertising work. That's how the internet advertising world has worked for a long time. There's a thing called cookies out there, if you're all familiar. Not the kind of nom nom cookies that Cookie Monster likes, but the kind of cookies that follow you around and give you ads on the internet.

So my theory here also has to do with the fact. They need a browser to start opening the door to being able to track you a little bit more. And again, tracking can be good. Tracking can be bad. It's not like all tracking is a bad thing. In some ways, tracking helps you get a better experience on the internet, but most people will tell you that most tracking on the internet revolves around the economics of the [00:15:00] internet, which I think will allow them to deliver much better advertising products.

So that is what I think is happening here. Yeah, the big question is. Will they be able to take any sort of market share away from Chrome? And Chrome is the dominant browser? Yeah, I'm not sure yet. It doesn't feel like we've gotten to that place yet, although people love the Perplexity browser. And so maybe that's the thing.

Maybe we will all get to this place. But you have to imagine Chrome itself will also have some version of this coming too.

Kevin Pereira: Another thing that OpenAI is gonna have to contend with Gavin, I don't know if you saw, but, um, Jason, uh, Botter roll. Uh, apologies. Jason if I'm butchering your name. Said, oh, I'm sorry.

I thought this was a web browser and they included an image where they asked Atlas to look up videos of Hitler. Now that might not be a common request you or I are making, right? But if someone wanted to do that chat. GPTs Atlas browser responded with, I can't brow display. Videos of Hitler since footage of him and Nazi propaganda are tightly restricted for ethical and legal reasons.

If you're supposed to be [00:16:00] a web browser, it is not your job to police what the user is browsing. Full stop.

Gavin Purcell: And that is another crazy moment where we're talking about like these things that oversee your access to all these different things. And again, that you know, whether or not that exact example is something you wanna do, there might be other things that you wanna do that could be out there.

So anyway, long story short, this feels like a semi unfinished product to me when you go out and spend time with it. It is very interesting. It does feel like the future of the internet. Uh, but it's not here yet. Also, Kevin, something interesting that is in this same space, Microsoft has updated their edge browser with very similar things, but a couple other interesting things as well, including a new little clippy replacement called Miko.

Um, what are your thoughts on what, uh, Mustafa, Suleman and team are doing over there at Microsoft today? I think, uh, it's, it's, the

Kevin Pereira: timing of this is just so fascinating. Super weird, right? Yeah. The Claude Desktop thing comes out this week. Google launches their thing. Okay, that's fine. But then on the browsing side, yeah, it, I, who knew [00:17:00] what is, what?

I wanna know where is Yes. Is someone, is someone on the copilot team using chat GPT five to write their press releases? Like how?

Gavin Purcell: There are these like things that go back and forth between Microsoft and OpenAI because we know Microsoft owns a big chunk of OpenAI, and I think in a lot of ways when OpenAI rolls something out, Microsoft is racing to have their own version of it now so that they can be, I guess, competitive, but also they don't want to see Edge get folded into Unuse, even though a lot of people aren't using Edge at all.

This is interesting. There are a couple things here that are going on on the Microsoft side that I think are worth talking about. This group's idea is kind of cool and it kind of makes the idea of browsing something, uh, a thing you can do together. There's been a lot of companies like say Figma or all these other companies that now are working with like design spaces that you can be on, on the web together, and now you can actually browse together and have these agentic features kind of be in one place, which is.

I think kind of interesting. Again, we haven't really improved the browsing experience for the last, I'd say like 10 years maybe. [00:18:00] Extensions feels like the last big one. So maybe this is a little bit more about making web browsing social. I don't necessarily think anybody's gonna use the edge browser because it's got such a low kind of investment in Yeah, most people's minds, but.

I don't know. That's kind of interesting.

Kevin Pereira: I look, I, I, I like that they're trying, I, I do wanna take it for a spin and see if it accomplishes tasks better than within the Atlas browser, for example. But they're, they, they have co-pilot for health, which I think is kind of interesting. Um, health is a big one.

You know, like, uh, people turn to LLMs for second and third opinions and to those things and to check for med medications and stuff. And so basically they're, uh, grounding the responses like any health-based responses with sources like Harvard Health. Which I think is, is smart. So they're trying to like tap you into trusted, credible databases.

Um, and then there was a, oh, learning live or learn live.

Gavin Purcell: Where is kind of what Google did too, I think, right? It's like the idea that you can talk to the AI as you're browsing, basically.

Kevin Pereira: But this one has a squishy little marshmallow looking guy. Miko, [00:19:00] Miko. Hey, we gotta talk miko. In fact, Gavin, I'm gonna click on the video where it says Meet Miko.

Okay, here we go. Great.

Gavin Purcell: Okay, here we go.

Kevin Pereira: Okay. And, uh, well. Well, okay, tech, uh, we're meeting, technically miko is on the screen for people who are watching on YouTube, but, um, literally the number one comment is, did you really make a video about miko with voice? But you have no audio in your video.

Gavin Purcell: You know, it's not on the social videos either, so I guess there is no, there is no miko voice.

That's Microsoft's update. Nice job. Also, I wanna point out very weird thing. Mustafa Suleman, the, I guess the head of Microsoft ai, I dunno what his title is, signed his, uh, signed his blog post with his signature. So now at least, you know, it's legit. You feel some sort of way about this. I really do. I really do.

All right, Kevin, the what kind of more interesting, bigger deal, and I know you have real big thoughts on this, is that. Google has updated AI studio. An AI studio, if you kind of are familiar, is like, Google's kind of like AI playground. It's where a lot of their ideas go before [00:20:00] they get rolled out into Gemini at large.

But, uh, Logan Kilpatrick, the, uh, Google what, I dunno what his name is, like Crown Prince of ai. Let's call him. Uh, that's, that's good enough for right now. I think he basically rolled out and said like, Hey. This Vibe code tool that we've created within AI Studio is really good, and there's a lot of rumors going on that it's being powered by Gemini 3.0.

Kev, you played with this, you found it really interesting. Let's talk about what's updated here because it's a big deal. I think so. Logan Kilpatrick, who is lead product for

Kevin Pereira: Google AI Studio and Gemini Crown Prince of ai, he's the Crown prince of ai. He's right beneath the king of the cosmos. All right?

Yes. Uh, he, I, I actually reached out to him on x to congratulate him because I, I was initially like so blown away by this update. I was like, the team absolutely cooked. So if you want to make something, if you want to whisper an app, a game, and experience into existence. There are a handful of sites and services now that will try to get you to use them to do it.

This update is promising to make [00:21:00] vibe coding available for the masses. My words, not necessarily Logan's or the teams. I was initially incredibly impressed with it. Gavin, you can go to AI Studio. Yeah, you can say, here's what I wanna build. I wanted it to build. Um. My buddy is going through some stroke rehabilitation right now, and, and, uh, he works with a speech therapist, but not as often as his insurance should be allowing.

I'll digress there. So I wanted to make a, a very simple speech game that he could play to help him with his rehab, Gavin. Sure. And it sounds like a simple request, right? To, to say like, oh, I want a thing where you can talk with an AI and go through the alphabet and have it encourage you if you get.

Letters correctly with certain words.

Gavin Purcell: Yeah.

Kevin Pereira: In reality, you have to. Implement browser, microphone, and speaker controls. Sure. You have to connect it to an LLM, to a voice assistant to have it judge and follow the logic of this game to give you reactions and make the ui, uh, have confetti and sound effects when it happens, right?

To score you to all of these little [00:22:00] things that come in there. And I basically two shotted like a rough version of the experience. I, I, I didn't have to download an IDE. I didn't have to configure anything. I didn't have to mess with any API keys, at least at first. Yeah, there was enough free credits for me to run this thing in the browser, see the code, you know, have it automatically fix any issues.

One click blown away, and then I tried to deploy it. Oh yeah. What happened then? And I wanna save the story because Logan has graciously agreed to come on our podcast. All right. It is, it is circling. A date's been a

Gavin Purcell: month. Are you sure you wanna hold onto that story

Kevin Pereira: for a month? No, I, I'm definitely gonna, no, I'm definitely gonna tell the story.

Okay. So when I went to go deploy, this is a very painful experience of, normally you have to spin up a website and connect it all, and then you have code that works for your local environment or your testing environment that doesn't quite port over. Google's AI studio promised that it was just gonna kind of port that all for me and make it work.

I had to go through activating my account for a billing account with an API key. Okay, fine. I did [00:23:00] that. When I went back to AI studio, I couldn't see the API keys. I tried to reset it. I tried to refresh the site. It finally gave me one of the API keys. Great. I clicked the button. I hit generate. I realized it's created a new API key.

Like, oh, it's not using, okay, well that's the deployed one. I go back to my sandbox environments, I'm getting API, key errors, and then it just turned into a thing that I eventually did sort out.

Gavin Purcell: Yeah.

Kevin Pereira: Um, but had I had not. Had I zero or near zero development experience, it would've never happened for me. So I, I'm sure they're making tweaks and changes and trying to fix things, but it's hard for me to say, Hey everyone, go out and try this thing and do it.

Because if they spend the time with it and they make something they're really, really happy with, when they click deploy, it may fall apart.

Gavin Purcell: Well, it's interesting you say that because I think this actually kind of flip, kind of connects to the thing we just talked about, which is. We are in this kind of in-between stage of ai, right?

Where they're, the idea of what these tools can do, especially if [00:24:00] you know how to use them really well, is incredible, right? And, but even if you know how to use 'em really well and you do, like I would say, you are like kind of a vibe coding, like 99% or you are up there in terms of how to do vibe coding.

Even for you, this process was not that clean and not that perfect. And yes, you got the one thing out of it great, but like when you want to deploy it, and I think there's a level of frustration that people will feel when they try something like Chachi BT Atlas or they tried this sort of thing at first.

'cause I will say very clearly, like I find this really interesting, I loved it. Um, the last time I did one of these kind of with the Gemini experience was when Gemini 2.5 pro launch, and if you remember this back in the day, I created a game where like a bear jumps and you have to try to jump up and down.

In this experience, I did the same, almost the exact same prompt. I tried to do the same prompt and it really broke a couple times and I got pretty frustrated 'cause I wasn't sure why it wasn't working. And in Gemini 2.5 Pro, it was a much cleaner experience. Now again, I am not nearly as good of a vibe quitter you are.

I might've started with too much in my prompt this time, but this [00:25:00] just goes to show you. These tools are incredible, but also it's that last mile problem, right? Yeah. It's a little bit of like, how do you get the idea of somebody who has an idea in their head and then get it out into the world? That's a tricky thing to do.

It's like that middle ground. It's almost like the uncanny valley of coding a little bit, right? It's this idea that. Um, in the uncanny valley, if you're not familiar, I think most probably audiences, it means like that moment of time where CGI looked a little too much like humans, but not close enough and it made it feel weird.

It feels like we're in that moment with AI coding specifically right now. A tiny bit.

Kevin Pereira: I would, I would actually across the board that I think we're, it's all impressive and amazing. Yeah. But I still think we're kind of in it even with video generation. Yeah. With writing, with, you know, summarizing with.

With coding, obviously. I think we're sort of feeling, we're all kind of feeling that. I will say that, you know, we talked last week about the, the rumored new Google models that are, you know, yes. Expert codes, Gemini 3.0 Pro, basically. Yeah. If they slam that into this thing, suddenly it's now one of the [00:26:00] most interesting vibe coding apps I think ever.

Um, the deployment stuff, I'm sure they can solve. They'll figure that out. They'll figure it out. Yeah. I do think they'll figure out it's, it's early days for that, but that, that still gets me excited. The annotation stuff is very interesting. I have not had a chance to try it out, but ideally, uh, or.

Theoretically, the way this works is that you can see your, your app that you're working on, on the right hand side, you're chatting with the agent on the left, you can draw right on top of the app. So instead of having tried to, trying to describe where the placement of a button should be, which is great, a graph that looks glitchy yes.

For you to just be able to draw on it, is actually a massive unlock that many of these other tools, these command line, like cloud code type things, they just don't have, unless you're Yep. Installing a bunch of extensions and plugins and this, that, the other. So I, I'm still very excited for it. I, um, I so excited to talk with Logan and his team about it to get a Crown Prince of ai.

On the show for us. I mean, it's amazing. Of course. It's incredible. So now I guess we have to keep doing this podcast until November.

Gavin Purcell: Yeah, exactly. That'll be fun. Um, another [00:27:00] couple quick things. Uh, uh, Google, uh, also dropped, uh, Google Earth ai. So now Google Earth has, is going to have AI baked into it, which is actually a bigger deal than you might think because one of the cool things about this is if you haven't been to Google Earth in a while, it's one of the most interesting kind of like.

Map sort of scenarios that Google has built. You can zoom in and zoom out of anywhere on Earth, but now you can use Gemini and ask questions. One of the things they show off here is like weather patterns and all sorts of other stuff. To me, that's a really cool thing. Um, there's just a lot of stuff that Google is doing, and we have said this before, but like.

It does feel that while chat, GPT is trying to become Google and bring all of their products to market, Google does seem to be kind of pushing forward on a lot of really big things. In fact, we're gonna talk later in the show about what they've done with quantum computing. They've had a big breakthrough there.

So Google is really pushing forward on the far edge of where these things can do. So we're excited to see that more.

Kevin Pereira: I'm gonna let it, give me a fresh cut, Gavin.

Gavin Purcell: Oh, you are really, is that right? Did you see the vibe coated

Kevin Pereira: AI [00:28:00] hairstylist? I did,

Gavin Purcell: yes. I did see that. Built in five minutes shot, boom. Yes. Yeah.

Kevin Pereira: Yeah. They basically, uh, have it take a photo of you with your camera, spit it to a Google Gemini flash image preview, two point nano banana. Sure. And it gives you a bunch of different haircuts for you to try on. Like that's a cool little app that probably would've taken someone. Months and thousands of dollars with third party developers to make, and now they whipped it up in five minutes.

Gavin Purcell: Yeah. Can you imagine those people that have made their money from being like the crazy rich person or the crazy person who's like 50 years old and said, I wanna make an app about my pockets being empty every day and how I can track my lint and that those people made 10 grand for that app, and now that app will be very easy to make on its own.

You hope at least maybe the go with the pocket app won't be able to figure out vibe coding yet. But eventually he will.

Kevin Pereira: Well, Gavin, now that AI is integrated into the power of Google Earth, I'm gonna ask it where all the love and the support is on the planet.

Gavin Purcell: That's right. The love and support is here clicking on our [00:29:00] subscribe button because you know, and we know that the YouTube algorithm has been messed up, so we need every single one of you out there to lean in and be part of it.

Now, Kevin, I have a theory here. I'm a little worried about this. Oh, I'm a little worried that as we've been telling people to say the things that we've been saying, and if you've been watching the show for listening to the show for a couple weeks, you know. We've given you code. Words to put into the comments.

Yeah. From a comment, clowns, squeeze out that algo juice. You think those are bad? I think those might be hurting us. So what I will say this time is when you go into our YouTube comments, and by the way, we love our YouTube comments. We try to reply to as many as we can. Sometimes we don't get to all of them, but we really do love when you comment, say something unique.

Come up with your own thing this time, and let's see what happens. Because I think there might be a scenario where we're seeing too many Hong honks. And there's a flag coming through on the Hong Kong stuff. So anyway, long story short, we need your help. Thank you so much for being part of our show. Well, what Patriot?

Patriot on someone Hong

Kevin Pereira: Kong because they're a comment clown and someone else is saying Hong Kong. 'cause they're trying to goose the algo doesn't. Those are two different Hong Kongs. There are

Gavin Purcell: [00:30:00] two Hong Honks. The two words are seen by the AIS as Hong and Hong Kong. The intention cannot be read. Kevin, we are not in that world anyway.

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We didn't say we were going to, but like. That is something we appreciate greatly. Thank you. So thank you everybody for doing that,

Kevin Pereira: sincerest, thanks. We, we really do appreciate it. You're the only way we grow this thing and we say it every week because it's true. Alright, Kev, as Sora two,

Gavin Purcell: speaking of growing Hong Kong Yes.

Is growing a little bit. Hong Kong. Yes. Hong Kong. Pretty soon you'll be able to make Hong Kong in Sora two when you have a Goose character that you upload. I am very excited about this, Mr. Peebles. Uh, you can call him. Bill has come out and dropped a long tweet about some updates coming to so two, but most excitingly.

You will soon be able to do cameos with characters. And Kevin, I think this is gonna unlock [00:31:00] an insane amount of functionality for what SOA is because to me, one of the things I've always wanted to do is create my own little character, then bring them through stuff. Right. It's cool to have me as the character in Sora.

Sure. And we know what people have done with you and Sora. But the idea of like creating my own little like IP basically that is my cameo that I control, is just such a cool idea. And this video that they released, there's a pre, there's a preview video of like a little ghost. There's talking egg, there's, but there's a lot of really fun stuff and they really think pets will be a big thing because to them.

They know that pets over Index on Instagram and all these places, so they're being very smart about this. But I am very excited about the possibility of what we're gonna see in SOA two with this.

Kevin Pereira: Yeah. First of all, I was shocked when I, I know it's V one, so obviously kudos to the team for moving and moving quickly in these directions and identifying what people like about the app.

Yeah. I was shocked that I couldn't make more than one cameo. Like I had people. That's also true. Yes. Me. Yeah. They were like, Hey, can we get a new version? We're tired of seeing this. Same shirt [00:32:00] and everything. So I went and recreated a cameo to give folks a new shirt. So I'm hoping that this not only applies to making cameos outta characters and pets and inanimate objects, but also just making more personal cameos.

You can show up in different ways. Yes, so that's really cool. I'm fascinated by the examples of the talking eggs. Yeah. Well,

Gavin Purcell: why? What's, what's fascinating about that? You've always wanna talk back to your breakfast.

Kevin Pereira: A hundred percent. I have a lot of produce chat to get to. I have a whole produce podcast.

No, don't say that. That's a different, that's a different podcast. Yes. Eggplants for Human is a very different, different game. Different game. The model. It. Being able to interpret the mouth and the expression of the eggs, even in that short little clip, has me interested into like, what else can this thing do that we haven't explored?

Yeah, and the notion that it is gonna lock that as a character that could then be puppeted and piloted by others is, is really interesting to me. But I think this, obviously, the cameo feature is something that you and I gravitated towards massively. And the ability to remix as well. They've, they're [00:33:00] clearly like narrowing in on those two things and I am very, very excited for

Gavin Purcell: it.

I'm very excited to see all the egg videos about dictators taking over central Europe. Like if you imagine like there's a bunch of eggs out there are like blah, blah. They all speak in some strange language. Anyway, another big video update this week is Hao, uh, which I can never pronounce perfectly, but at Minimax, this company just dropping a 2.3 update.

It's only in preview right now, but there are a lot of great videos that we've seen of this. But Kevin, I really wanted to point this out for this connection to Sora, which was interesting. FOFR, again, one of our favorite FOFR ai. He goes and tries or they go and try all the interesting new AI tools. He, uh, had a video where he was showing a, uh, like basically a pop and lock dancer on top of a drone, which is pretty cool.

And then, uh, AI girl, which is AI girl agent, I assume that's a real person. AI girl out there shows a Sora video of the same thing. And what's great as you see the woman kind of dancing is not as good a physics. But then at one point there's a terrible accident, Kevin, that happened. She flips backwards off the drone and then just [00:34:00] falls to her desk.

She sure does. Yeah. We assumed

Kevin Pereira: which, which is why I would choose that in an arena shootout, even though the physics are worse. Exactly. Me, me too. I mean,

Gavin Purcell: it's a much more fun. It's a much more fun video, but you'll be able to do this soon. Uh, minimax keeps getting better. Like the physics of this are really interesting.

Really good. I think that that, you know, you're gonna see a lot of really interesting video updates in the bit. Alright. Another cool thing that is an update that 11 Labs showed off, there's a new company called, I think it's Decart ai or a company that's been around for a little while. Mm-hmm. That is working on.

Um, real time audio, uh, lip sync Puppeting. And this is an area that we are paying very close attention to because we're working on an AI startup that is very much around AI audio. And our thesis has always been that like the lip sync is still a little bit funky. In fact, I think it still is here, but we are getting closer to a world where.

Realtime video and audio can be something that could be actually encouraging to watch. So this was just a cool way of watching the 11 Labs dev kind of work with this sort of scenario. And also a little bit of the same backend that we work with, which is the open [00:35:00] source tool pipe catt.

Kevin Pereira: Yeah, I've seen other tools like, I mean, Hagen has an offering that lets you puppet the like their avatars as well.

Yeah. But what makes this really interesting is the ability to easily plug it into an 11 labs flow and an open source audio powered thing. So again. As we talk about these advancements in vibe coding, these new models coming down the line, letting browsers take control for you and do research for you. It is early days, but if you had an idea.

For an app that would have an avatar talking to you about anything. Like you can now start seeing the little Lego bricks out there. Yeah. And start asking AI how to piece them together. And now suddenly you can make things that are incredibly powerful that were just impossible even months

Gavin Purcell: ago. That's right.

Um, okay. Another cool story, speaking of that, something I felt like it was impossible just months ago, is that it looks like Amazon has actual working AR glasses in the wild. You brought this story up. What, what's going on with these exactly.

Kevin Pereira: Yeah. So I mean, look, we, we keep talking about how wearables like it or not, are the future for a lot of these devices from, [00:36:00] you know, earbuds and pods to glasses and lenses and, you know, Amazon is not asleep at the wheel Here.

They've got a, uh, a head-mounted display. It looks like a, like a spinach green, like an old, you know. An old, uh, like terminal interface from the eighties or a game boy pocket, if you will. Um, but it puts a little display in the bottom right hand corner of someone's lens. Pretty cool. Pretty cool. And it gives the delivery driver or the warehouse worker what they need, right?

Yes. It's not to connect with your friends and pinch Zoom on your favorite photos. It is. Where are you at in this world? Where do you need to be? Which package needs to go there? It's also like,

Gavin Purcell: who tipped last year at Christmas and what, how well you should treat the, uh, package sort of scenario. It's like notes from former Yes, exactly.

Like, this guy's got a terrible dog, so watch out. He's gonna bite

Kevin Pereira: you if you're not careful. That's right. Yeah. Um, so the glasses looks like they have a, a camera right in the middle where the nose is. Two other sort of sensors or devices on the side. Yeah. It's a

Gavin Purcell: little Google glassy looking in a weird way.

Right. It's a, it feels like a prototype, which maybe it still is. Yeah. But like they're [00:37:00] active and out there.

Kevin Pereira: Exactly. And, and what I think was interesting is the, the controls to like take a photo, were actually on the vest Yeah. Of the Amazon worker. There's like a button. So as they deliver the package, they look down, they press the button, they get the photo.

And there you go. Just interesting that it's, you know, this isn't necessarily something that you and I are gonna be lining up to buy, but fascinating that they're working on it and the approach that they're doing with like battery over here. Yeah. Action buttons over here. Probably to make the glasses as ultra lightweight as possible.

So, and last wear longer too, probably. Yeah. Yeah. For

Gavin Purcell: your 26 hour shift. Alright, Kevin, we have three big stories here, but they're all a little bit nerdy, so it is time to get your nerd on. That's right. It is Nerd Fest 2025. Let's go. Nerd

Suno Clip: Fest. Let's go. This drop is wild. The base is melting my brain in the best way.

Look at those lasers, man. Nerd heaven, right here. Ready for the drop Three. Boom. Two. Boom. Yes. Hi Bob.

Gavin Purcell: I'm putting on my glasses. Kevin, this is Nerd Fest. Oh, so we have glasses. Kidding. Our glasses be studious. I wanna start with a story that is actually a much [00:38:00] bigger deal than I think has gotten credit for.

This is a dork new piece of research. Uh, go ahead, dork. This is a story from Deeps seek and deeps seek. We knew kind of blew everybody away with their open source model that came out, whatever it was six months ago now. They've done a new piece of technology that has really opened the door. It's funny.

I'll tell you what it is and then I'll kind of figure out like how to explain it. Basically, they are using OCR technology, which is the kind of like thing where you scan images, right? It's like the ability to scan an image. And instead of seeing, uh, uh, instead of seeing, instead of seeing text as tokens, they are deciding to essentially use the entire AI corpus as images instead of text.

And what's interesting about that is you think, well, why would they want to do that? The, the files are gonna be way bigger and all this other stuff. They have actually figured out a way to condense those images down to a insanely small size where it might actually be a better way to serve the entire AI [00:39:00] world outside of doing what we've done before.

Yeah. Which is LLMs, right. So. You can probably maybe explain slightly better than I can. So tell me a little bit about that. No,

Kevin Pereira: I wish. Here hand me your glasses through the uh, okay. Thank you. Perfect. Yeah. Nailed it. Prop comedy, working remote. Yeah. Um, alright. I could give you, um, 10,000 Lego bricks and Yes.

And say build something with this. But remember all of these bricks, right? Because they're gonna eventually be a house. Or I could arrange them all and take a photo of them. And when you're talking like token to token, one thing representing another vaguely, like you have 10,000 of a thing or you have one thing.

Yes, it's a photo of 10,000 things, but it's really just one thing. And we know we can compress images very well, right? Yes. You could take an image at any, any, any goal image, and you can dither it and you can distort it and you could still kind of make out what it is. Pretty well. Well, that's a very, very rough distillation of what this concept is here, is that if you just.

Instead of storing things as individual, [00:40:00] uh, characters, the text, take a picture of it, store the image, you can compress the hell outta the image and still retrieve it later. So instead of having to do all these hacks and tricks to try to get AI to remember a massive, massive amount of data, just let it have these washy.

Uh, compressed images of it and it can go and retrieve those later and try to pull context from it. Now it has some cons. It has some pitfalls, but this is a dramatically new way of looking at how compression can occur and these ais can remember things.

Gavin Purcell: Yeah, and you may have been following, like there's a big story underage cup path.

One of our favorite, you know, kind of speakers and talkers about ai, former open AI and Tesla researchers. Went on the D Keh podcast and got a lot of. Press for basically saying that like he actually thinks a GI is further away. And that agents, this isn't the year of agents, it's the decade of AI agents.

So he's kind of saying slow down. He actually responded to this and was like, this is a really interesting new way to look at stuff. So when you have somebody who's like thought very deeply around the AI space, it's just [00:41:00] another one of those things where like surprises will come out of companies like Deep seek and that's again, we were shocked before about how well they did with other stuff.

This feels like a slightly new way to look at LLM, so a very good nerd fest story. Kevin, our next nerd fest story is maybe even nerdier. Do you have an idea what this is about? This is the quantum computing thing. This is the quantum computing story. Right. Okay. Yeah, so this is not as much an AI story, but it is something really important to remember because quantum computing, which I am going to like fully butcher, but here's the basic idea, quantum com, quantum, I can't even say the word.

Quantum computing is a new way of completely doing computing in which you're using Q qubits. Qubits. Yeah. Qubits. Qubits. Or qubits? Qubits. Qubits. I'm make sure I got the name right. And the weirdest thing about quantum computing is that you are tracking quantum particles and by passing quantum particles through a system, you're somehow able to, you're somehow able to do much more complicated actual computer computer.

Transactions [00:42:00] than even a supercomputer can do, and we're talking about like 13,000 times bigger and crazier transactions than a supercomputer. Now, up until this date. Quantum computing has always been this idea that like, oh, you could come up with a very specific sort of set of things and maybe it would work for that thing.

But Google has basically said that they now have with their willow supercomputer, their quantum computer, they have the ability to track actual things that are useful out of it. And while this is like a baby step in this world, when you think about next generation platforms, and we're really talking about like 10, 20, 30 years in the future here, this is going to mean that incredibly complicated comp, uh, computational problems may be able to be solved.

Now, none of this is real, but this is a very big interesting idea. I sold

Kevin Pereira: all my Bitcoin Gavin because this signals the end of encryption and this quantum computer's gonna break the whole darn thing.

Gavin Purcell: That's what a lot of people are saying. But whether or not that's true, I don't know. It's just a very cool thing for any of the nerds [00:43:00] out there because it does something.

It is something that's been promised for a while. And finally, Kevin, in the final Nerd Fest, 2025 story. We have a data scraping surprise. Uh, Reddit has caught four companies red handed Reddit handed, in fact, whoa. And one of those companies is Perplexity. Yeah. And what they are basically accusing these four companies are, they just, uh, created a lawsuit.

They're suing these four companies, three plus perplexity. The other three are all data scraping websites. And they're suing them because they basically put in a little nugget into what they were looking for, and they said, if a company were to find this, we knew that they were scraping us illegally. And so, so they found it.

They found these four companies found this in their results. This is a big deal because Reddit is very much trying to protect their moat, which is actually pretty significant because Reddit's moat is their data, and their data is incredibly valuable. You all know this. If you've ever added Reddit to the end of a Google search, you get very human reactions mostly.

So Kev, this feels like the kind of beginning fight [00:44:00] around the data of the internet in an interesting way, but. But again, I think this is like another one of those nerdy stories. It's a bigger deal, uh, on the underneath than it feels on the surface.

Kevin Pereira: What's really interesting, Gavin, is that if you pull the story up in, let's say open AI's Atlas browser Sure.

And you ask it to do anything with it, it says, Hmm, I'm unable to access the contents of this website. Could so can't scrape. It could because of a New York Times lawsuit.

Gavin Purcell: Well, I would bet it was prior to that that they couldn't scrape it. Because remember opening, uh, Reddit has put on those stoppages earlier, and that's what this story is.

It's like looking for those companies screen that try to scrap the New York Times site

Kevin Pereira: with Atlas. It says, no, no, no, no, no, we cannot. That would make sense. Yeah. Sorry. That would make sense for sure. Yeah. Anyway, nerdy, nerdy, stiff. That's the end

Gavin Purcell: of, that's how we're gonna end nerd. We're gonna end our best way.

25 with the nerd was a lot of nerdy, Steve. Okay. Alright everybody, it's time. New robots and robot watch.

Kevin Pereira: Oh yeah, this [00:45:00] won't be nerdy at all.

Robot Watch: Watch robot. Watch

Gavin Purcell: big story here. Amazon, uh, is gonna basically eliminate. 600,000 human jobs, robots. This is a big deal. We've been talking about this for a while. Amazon is excited about this, which, I mean, I guess I can understand why these are, they're creating three specific types of robots that will run their factories, basically.

And we kind of all knew this was coming. I assume most people who kind of even work in those Amazon factories, we remember seeing those videos of those little robots that would roll around on the ground. Like that's one of the three and like, yeah. This is the beginning stages of what like robotic factories will look like, and Kevin and I have said it again and again.

The next big iteration on the AI boom will be like humanoid robots and we that we, that's why we do robot watch. This is the downside is that they will replace manual labor jobs in a big way. Well, they'll

Kevin Pereira: just avoid hiring over 600,000 people between now and [00:46:00] 2033, because they will save 30 cents per item packed.

That's a lot of money. By the way, when you think about it. That's what I say. Somebody's like, oh, you're not gonna hire someone based off of 30 cents. It's $12.6 billion in savings. Yeah. Between 2025 and 2027.

Gavin Purcell: There's a really kind of weird and scary chart that's going around that Derek Thompson, who I know I've shot on this podcast before Shared, which is the GDP of America and the stock market going up and jobs actually going down for the first time in a very long time, like maybe ever, but it's something that is very rare to see.

And I do think we have to have this kind of realization and rationalization that that will probably not change from here on out. Right. So we've talked about this a thousand times on here, but like I've seen a number of headlines lately are like, oh, there'll be a two day work week. Bill Gates says there's gonna be a two day work week.

Or like. We have to figure out what to get people to do with all of their free time when they don't have any work left. And I'm like, yeah, with five figure days

Kevin Pereira: you're gonna be jousting other human beings for food and healthcare

Gavin Purcell: that Well, that's what I was gonna [00:47:00] say. The thing you have to figure out first is how you give those people money to live and to buy things.

They are not gonna just have free time if they can't afford to. Like I know people in my life and my extended life who have worked two jobs, three jobs, who are doing this thing to scrape by now. Imagine a world where lots more people are. Anyway. Anyway, this is a great lower start to robot watch. Kevin.

We're gonna come into it with these diminished ideas about where robots are, and now Kevin, we're moving in, we're moving out, and we're throwing

Kevin Pereira: that story out the window. It cannot be context at all for anything we discuss at all for the rest of robot, not all. Not at all. Like Unres new H two Destiny Awakening a robot that looks more human and acts more human and can perform more human-like tasks

Gavin Purcell: and can do ballet.

So ballerinas, you're outta work now, baby.

Wow. That. Some rock and roll baller. So what are we seeing there, Kevin? Describe it for the people that are just listening here.

Kevin Pereira: You're watching a unit tree ro Well, by now I think [00:48:00] most of our audience is familiar with these unit tree robots. These, they, they, they very, they look very human. Yeah. They can do ate, uh, they can, uh, break dance.

There's some like limited parkour, et cetera. Well, this new version, this H two version, is officially the size and weight of like an average human being. So it's be sexier, I should say. It's sexier.

Gavin Purcell: They do dress it up quite a bit. It's a little bit more spelt, it's more movement to it. It's a little less, uh, kind of robot looking.

It definitely has a more of a, it's a little bit, uh, more spelt it's doing stuff here. So anyway, this is like their next iteration and it definitely looks like it's going to be able to do more movement for sure. And like, it's just another one of the step ups in, in, uh, unit tree's pipeline. Um, there's also a couple interesting G one videos that came out.

Um. First and foremost, they're, these G ones are the ones that are now available in the us. We talked about how you can buy a five pack of them from Walmart's stand at Walmart. Yeah, yeah. There's a guy who moted it. Uh, his name is Jay Lo, uh, Logan Olson. And there's a [00:49:00] video of him where it, it's like it's on all fours.

He's mod it to be on all fours and it's kind of crawling around the ground. But this is the fun thing where you're gonna get these in the hands of kind of makers. Somebody did point out though that if you put a black wig on it and you had it pull out of a tv, that would be an incredible, um, awesome Halloween display to look like the ring was crawling outta your tv, but very cool thing in general.

And then Kevin, yes. We have a, a, a maybe a sad moment where a unit tree, G one in the middle of a, of a dance recital kind of passes away. It looks like you wanna describe what we're seeing here? Well, he, he, he curb

Kevin Pereira: stomps. A break dancer? Yes. That's alright. Let's be clear. There's a B boyer A there's a someone, mid Bboy.

Someone be, someone is being a boy on the ground, a human doing a move. Yes. And the unit tree, G one just steps on their face and kicks their hat off, but then loses their footing in the process, collapses to the ground, but then does not attempt to recover. It just does not get up. Yeah. And this is

Gavin Purcell: the video from Japan and I like, there's like little ghost uh, emojis popping off of it.

And [00:50:00] then like they have to continue the dance. Contest, which is very weird. Well, it's,

Kevin Pereira: it's uncle and a and a cardigan comes out very disappointed and just starts to slowly try to drag it off of the dance floor.

Gavin Purcell: Uh, next up we have, uh, robots from a head form. And this, see, these are two robots that are, I would refer to as, uh.

Sexy is the wrong word, but like, uh, alluring maybe there's a female and a male and they're definitely going for something very specific. This kind of feels like the humanoid form of what, uh, the grok, uh, ai, uh, assistant is trying to be. The female is very like ethereal looking and elf like, and the male is like, has very deep brows.

But what's interesting about this is we don't see this a lot, but these are like semi realistic faces being put on these humanoid robots. And when you pull back you see like. The exoskeleton and all the stuff there, but now we're starting to get to that stage where we're trying to make these a little bit more human-like.

What is your first thought when you see these videos? I mean,

Kevin Pereira: what's, [00:51:00] what's the maximum order per household? That's what I wanna know. Oh wow. How many are they limiting me by? Do they make one that I can just wrap around a Roomba? You know, I've got so many, I don't need it to have like an arms. You don't?

Wow, that's

Gavin Purcell: interesting. You just want a torso. You wanna turn? I need one capability.

We're gonna talk about. One last robot here will please blease this.

Kevin Pereira: Just do me a

Gavin Purcell: favor and give a nice long bleep. This is the skilled AI robot, and this is another version, one of those robots that's out there showing off what it can do physically. This Kevin is doing parkour and what I thought was really interesting about this video.

It's doing parkour, but like in quotes, right? It's one of those things I saw somebody underneath it putting the office gif of like Steve Carell's character doing parkour. Yes. But yeah. Yeah. Like you see it kind of like gently jump up and like I kind of find that I might connect with these robots at some point in this world.

Like I would love them to have like kind of like goofy personalities. 'cause if I was like having one of these in my house and he was outside practicing Park [00:52:00] Gore and I went out there, I'd be like. That's pretty fun, man. That's what I'd like to see you be doing. I don't care about you cleaning up my house.

I just wanna see you get better at this little thing in your life. You know,

Kevin Pereira: all that laundry's unfolded, but, oh dude. Nice vault. Okay. Yeah,

Gavin Purcell: exactly. Okay. Shit. Exactly. I get where you're going with this. Want Aer, I'll be recording this for your TikTok channel actually. That would be amazing if, if you had a robot in your house and like it suddenly got a spark of a GI and instead of like doing the work you wanted it to do, it tried to become an influencer on its own.

Right. It just wants to

Kevin Pereira: learn the bass, guitar, and stream on Twitch. Exactly.

Gavin Purcell: If you have a story like that with a robot in your house, come find us. Alright buddy. That is it for this week. We will see you next week when more stuff happens in the AI space. Peace out y'all. Hey, go play and then chat.