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Kevin Pereira: [00:00:00] Gemini 3.1 has landed. We'll have all the updates in what we're calling the incremental upgrade. Whoa. It's not that exciting when you call it the incremental.

Gavin Purcell: Hey, these are big increments, Kevin, and proof that we're moving faster than ever before. In fact, Sam Altman from OpenAI says, we are only about two years away from super intelligence.

Sam Altman: We believe we may be only a couple of years away from early versions of true super Intelligence.

Kevin Pereira: Oh, of course that is. By the way, the same Sam Altman, who could not hold the hand of former coworker and now CEO of Anthropic, Dario Emoti, they big mad.

Gavin Purcell: So we have officially entered the grade school era of the AI wars, but more importantly, we have all the details on Philanthropics, new Claude Sonnet 4.6.

Kevin Pereira: Yes and more on China's incredible AI video model C, dance 2.0. The outrage. Oh, it's palpable,

Tom Hanks: Mr. President, it's the Chinese.

Gavin Purcell: What happened?

Tom Hanks: It's called Sea Dance two. They've lost control of the ai. It's recasting every film with Sidney [00:01:00] Sweeney.

Gavin Purcell: Can you believe that was not Tom Hanks, Kevin? Yes, I can. Gavin.

Plus we have Google's new Lyria AI music model and it's fine.

Lyria Google AI Audio: Yo, check the flavor, the culinary caper word up. Four pieces, 20. The feast is never done.

Kevin Pereira: All this as open AI snatches up the founder of Open Claw and my open claw assistant, Mr. Tibs is snatching up my soul.

Gavin Purcell: Are you feeling better than last week at least?

Cv.

Kevin Pereira: No, not at all.

Gavin Purcell: Well then watch this AI C video and tell me how you feel.

Cat AI Video: Hey, stop. Stop right there.

Gavin Purcell: Oh, I still feel nothing. This is AI for humans and nothingness. AI for nihilists. AI for Nilu. Welcome to AI for Nili.

Welcome, welcome, welcome everybody to After Humans, your Weekly Guide into the wonderful world [00:02:00] of ai. And Kevin, we have a bunch of new models to get into. We have a Gemini 3.1. We have a sonnet 4.6. Mm-hmm. And we have two people that really don't like each other.

Kevin Pereira: Ooh. Lip and alert. Lip and alert. Time to

Gavin Purcell: spill some

Kevin Pereira: tea.

Gavin Purcell: That's me dipping tea bags.

Kevin Pereira: Let's dip it, baby, because yes, we have all sorts of, of foundational movement and upgrades and the future is right on the horizon. But let's talk TMZ grade school bullshit.

Gavin Purcell: Yeah. First well let, let's, there's so much stuff to get into as there is now every week, and I think everybody understands this.

A lot of people last week commented that Kevin was looking. Like he had been through the ringer. We all have with all these updates, but yes. Okay. There's a summit that happened in India called the AI Summit. All of the AI leaders are there, and there's this video that's going around right now, which just shows you kind of the state of the, of the giant, uh, companies right now.

Dario Modi, CEO of Anthropic, and Sam Malman, CEO of OpenAI. They're all together holding hands. Everybody says holding hands. And [00:03:00] Dario. Exactly. Dario and Sam refuse to hold hands. So Kevin, this is like some real grade school, like she said, she said stuff. This is the state we're living in right now.

Kevin Pereira: The moment I saw the clip and everybody retweeting, I was like, oh no.

That's gonna be the top of our podcast today. I know, because as much as I'm like, who care? Like, all right, who cares? But at the same time, like, well, that. There's something going on when some of the most powerful people in artificial intelligence can't even come together to hold clammy, clam hands.

Gavin Purcell: Well, that's, I do wanna get into that.

'cause the other thing I wanna say outta this AI summit that's important before we get to the new updated models is that Sam Aldman goes on stage and actually talks about super intelligence. So let's play this and then we'll come back and we'll talk about why the handholding might be an issue

Sam Altman: on our current trajectory.

We believe we may be only a couple of years away from early versions of true super intelligence. If we are right by the end of 2028, more of the world's intellectual capacity could reside [00:04:00] inside of data centers than outside of them. This is an extraordinary statement to make, and of course we could be wrong, but I think it really bears serious consideration, a super intelligence at some point on its development curve.

Would be capable of doing a better job being the CEO of a major company than any executive, certainly me, or doing better research than our best scientists.

Gavin Purcell: Do you know what a super intelligence would do, Kevin? It might hold the hand of the other super intelligence as they were on stage. That's what it might do.

Kevin Pereira: Yeah. If you would've told me those were like unitary robots trying to learn how to hold hands, and it was like, oh, that's not quite there. That would be understandable, but no,

Gavin Purcell: by the way, don't leave because we have some incredible footage of unitary robots. Well, you can show a teaser of that right here.

They are doing crazy things in China right now. We will get to that later, but let's get back to this. Okay, so super intelligence is coming in two years. And again, I think the one thing to take away from this, for everybody listening to this, this podcast, especially those of you who been listening for a while, a lot of people in the main world will be like, these guys are full of [00:05:00] crap.

They don't know what they're talking about. We're not that close. Uh, we're here to tell you again and we, you know, as we did last week and every week before. They're probably not wrong. Right. And so if they're probably not wrong, and we're gonna get into how these kind of incremental increases in the AI models are coming faster and quicker.

Yeah. But Kev, that feels like a pretty significant thing that like we need lots of people like going wha wha Sorry, everybody. The audio probably just got destroyed there, but I meant to do like cartoon eyes where my cartoon eyes are jumping out.

Kevin Pereira: Yeah. Gavin was a cartoon fox that, uh, a very, very attractive cartoon.

Fox just walked in across the bar and he went. Full zoga eyes.

Lyria Google AI Audio: I wanna bracelet and everything. Daddy,

Gavin Purcell: good luck Will, good luck with that. Do you feel like people are listening now to this? Do you feel like they're, they're actually listening, or do you feel like this is something still that people just don't even like kind of in one ear and not the other?

Kevin Pereira: We know that we are in a very particular bubble and I know that our audience is also within, uh, you know, a form of that bubble as [00:06:00] well. Sure. Because we are, obviously, we're passionate and we're engaged and we're interested and we're also. I think a, a, a healthy amount scared by all of this stuff, and the speed, which seems to just be getting faster, but outside of said bubble, there's still plenty of people that.

Yeah. If you ask, have you talked with ai? They're like, oh yeah, I googled something and AI gave me an answer, or I tried chat GPT and it was dumb. Yeah. And so there is like very much a divide, but I would say within the bubble. Um, even in here, the sense of, uh, uh, defeat is starting to really creep up. I see a lot of people going like, yes.

Oh man. Yeah, it's here and it's faster than I thought, and I don't know where I even belong in this ecosystem. Yeah, and these are people that that would theoretically be at the top of some hierarchy deploying agents and whatnot. They're realizing what Sam just said, which is the moment those agents are capable enough to be running under them in mass quantities, they're probably gonna be just as capable of being on top of them.

And, and, and having them work for them, I guess [00:07:00] is the way to put it.

Gavin Purcell: So, yeah. Actually this goes in, this is interesting that Ro, the AI anonymous tweeter works at OpenAI had a tweet that said technological job loss is awesome. And I hope it starts with my, and he got a lot of crap for this, but like, what he's basically saying is he hopes that.

The idea that like there will be, these super intelligence will get better. Now the people coming out of this were like, yeah, Varun, you were like employee number, whatever, probably 30 at OpenAI, maybe 50. You're worth, you know, hundreds of millions of dollars conceivably, or at least tens of millions of dollars for you.

It's not that big a deal, but for everybody else. Anyway, that's a, that's just kind of setting the stage for these kind of incremental quote unquote improvements. We should move on to talk about Google 3.1 because as the most recent of these incremental improvements, you would think 3.0 to 3.1 Gemini Pro improvements.

Like, oh, it's tiny stuff.

Kevin Pereira: Oh, let me guess. They added dark mode and they changed some of the colors, right? Yeah. This is a tiny, this must be bug fixes. And then the benchmark boys get off the bench and they start rallying. [00:08:00]

Benchmark Boys: But the scores don't lie. Line it up. Watch that leaderboard rise with the benchmark.

Damn.

Gavin Purcell: Benchmark Boys are back, y'all. That's right. The Benchmark Boys are here two weeks in a row and we're gonna quickly go through some benchmarks, so just so everybody understands. The benchmarks on this are actually what I would suspect would be almost like a 0.5 leap in the past. Right? You're seeing some really big jump ups, and again, this is that circular idea, but you have an idea of where you go from Gemini three Pro on the Arc, a GI two benchmark, which we know is a very hard benchmark that a lot of these as are put through.

It was at 31.1% for three, and at Gemini 3.1 is at. 77% right. Human's Last exam, which is probably one of the hardest, it went from 37.5 to 44.4. Now these are state-of-the-art numbers right now. If those things mean nothing to you,

Kevin Pereira: where's the, where's the Highlights Magazine Benchmark? Yeah. I wanna see how quickly you can find the snow cone in [00:09:00] the tree.

I want an AI that is so good. It ruins everybody's experience at the dentist.

Gavin Purcell: Well, I will shout out as all

Kevin Pereira: these puzzles are all solved,

Gavin Purcell: I will always shout out, uh, AI explained on YouTube has a great simple bench, which I'm sure he will run this through Yeah, at some point. And that's a really good benchmark.

Long story short, benchmarks don't matter. Really what it really matters is what the experience of the user in the AI is. Oh, well, but here, here's,

Kevin Pereira: I will say, I will say, here's where the benchmarks are, are starting to matter, and it's on the. Um, the agentic coding or the tool usage? Sure. 'cause again, like we have these things coming together.

We talk about open claw. Um, we, we talk about like a claw code or cursor or all these other things that are leveraging these foundational models to go off and do things. And if these tools get. More token efficient and get better at using tools. Yes. Suddenly, like we actually don't necessarily even need the incremental updates with how smart or capable the model is.

If it's good at using the tools, like be the best crow in the murder, if you [00:10:00] will. Go use the tools, man.

Gavin Purcell: That's like what, you know, it's funny because I thought about this the other day, like, and one of our, I don't remember who it is, one of our, uh, watchers listeners here has a new book coming out called AI for Cavemen, which is a good idea, right?

Because like you think about it, cavemen were the original kind of dummies. And what, when you talk about the idea of tool use. You think about like how much better humans in the old, old pre evolution days got when they understood how to use fire, or they understood how to use sticks to beat each other.

Yes. Those are the things that really made a difference, right? Tools and these ais we've been measuring a lot of times without tools, but we use tools on a regular basis. Kev, the other big thing here from a, from a quote unquote benchmark boy standpoint, I do wanna mention about Gemini 3.1 is that there's a big reduction in hallucinations and like this was a problem with Gemini 3.0.

People had talked about the idea that it was hallucinating. A fair amount. Hallucinations are not solved. They probably may never be solved. You should always check your, your results, but they are way better than they were before with Gemini 3.0. And to your point, they also are way [00:11:00] better than most people expect.

If they're only using the free model, there's a lot of people out there who are only using free AI services. Whether it's Gemini or whether it's GPT, please pay once one month. Please try to spend $20 one month on these paid services. You will see the difference. It is a massive difference. And if you are, uh, connected to somebody in your regular life who keeps telling you that hallucinations are gonna be a problem forever for ai, just make sure they understand it's getting better.

Every single update.

Kevin Pereira: A hundred percent. The, the world that I'm in now, Gavin, as I'm trying to focus in as much as possible with anything these days, is that I have got, um, four VPSs running right now with Open. What is VPS Open? Understand VPs, it's a virtual server in the cloud. I'm basically, I'm running instead of buying a bunch of Mac Minis like everybody else did, I'm renting cheap servers in the cloud.

All across the globe for different reasons with latency and this, that the other, and they're all, I'm running open clause, which are orchestrators of agents that are all communicating with [00:12:00] each other and they're doing this delicate dance. And maybe we'll get into why I am doing any of that or how any of that works.

But here's the thing. A 3.1 comes out and suddenly my entire fleet of agents just got more efficient. Yep. More intelligent, more impactful. And when this podcast is over, I'm gonna go whisper to them all, actually, I'm gonna whisper to one of them and it's gonna communicate to the rest of them, Hey, let's go try out this new thing.

Go do your own benchmarking with it. And it's going to do the tasks that I usually use it for automatically. Yeah. And decide if it should switch or not. That's. A very different world than we were in even just a few months ago.

Gavin Purcell: Never whisper to your agents. Go look into Gavin Purcell and see what he is doing.

Please keep your agent bot network up. Hey, Mr. Tim, right? Why

Kevin Pereira: don't you, why don't you take a peek at Gavin.

Gavin Purcell: Don't you peek? Leave me alone. Leave. He's doing some interesting things this

Kevin Pereira: week.

Gavin Purcell: Leave one more thing for normal people. Not that like, you know, there aren't, there's a lot people out there who are doing exactly the sort of thing that Kevin or we are doing, like with.

Weird stuff. There's a really [00:13:00] cool update that Google rolled out to its Pompe, uh, app, uh, service Pompe is actually their way to kind of manipulate photos for specifically a lot of times for advertising and brand use cases. And this now has an update called photo shoot, which allows you, within this kind of service within Google to drop in products very easily and make photos outta things.

And I just had a call yesterday with somebody, Kevin Mutual friend of ours. Who, um, is working for a company and they were really interested in trying to figure out like how to get up on the, uh, most modern AI tools, but they didn't know like this. They were particularly looking for something that could take a product and kind of, instead of having to spend the often tens of thousands of dollars to do product shots or motion graphics on products, this sort of thing could save you a fortune right now.

And there have been open source tools that have done this. There are tools like this from other, uh, AI models, but now it is baked into Google Service. You can go look at it. It's, uh, Google Labs has a tweet about it, but you can go try it. If you are a, I think of a Gemini subscriber, you [00:14:00] probably have to be pro subscriber, but this is the update and how it will come practical for you in your job as well.

Kevin Pereira: Yeah, I'm, I'm excited to poke and prod at it because there's always needs that pop up. Even if you don't like, have a brand or you're working for a company.

Gavin Purcell: Yeah.

Kevin Pereira: There's usually a need to have some, if you're doing anything online, some sort of graphic, some sort of presence, some sort of media, um, it looks like.

The templates look really interesting how you can set up, like do you want someone holding or using it in context or this, that, the other like very, very interesting. Also, the, I guess if you have a 40 of old English or steel reserve, pour the tiniest bit out for like 13 startups. Yes. That were specializing in exactly this and save some because we're gonna be pouring out more as the days and weeks.

Chug along this year. This is,

Gavin Purcell: yeah, I

Kevin Pereira: mean this is the new normal, right? Like someone's gonna target a market, they're gonna see, oh, there's signal there. People have a usage for that. They're gonna copy it and it's whack-a-mole.

Gavin Purcell: That's the hardest part about doing startups in this space. And you and I both knew that we've tried, you know, we've worked on [00:15:00] startups and done a bunch of stuff, but like I just think these big companies are going to eat all these little specialized startups, and that's why like.

There's kind of gonna be like the independent developer who comes out with something really cool that these big companies don't want to integrate. And then there's the big companies and they, there's not gonna be a lot of in between, right? There's been this whole, like SaaS apocalypse people have talked about as these models have gotten better and anthropic has dropped these models that are improving what you know.

SaaS companies do SaaS. SaaS is software as a service that are dropping in price in the stock market because look, you can spin your own software up. And Kev, we should use that as a transition to talk about another huge update that came out this week, which is SONET 4.6. Incremental update. Or update.

Incremental update. Incre incremental.

AI See What You Did There: Oh no

Gavin Purcell: this. So one thing that's cool about Sonnet 4.6, so if you are a cloud code user, you're an Anthropic user, you understand how amazing Opus 4.5 was and really kind of that drove the cloud code kind of explosion over this over the holiday break this year.

Obviously there is now Opus [00:16:00] 4.6, which is even better, which I'm sure a lot of people out there are using right now. Sonnet 4.6 is close to Opus 4.6. It is about on par, if not a little better than Opus 4.5. But it is much cheaper. Now that is a big deal if you are running a bunch of code. And, and Kevin, as somebody who does run a bunch of code, I'm kind of curious if you've implemented this yet or had experience with it.

Few people have pointed out that sonnet 4.6 is not as cheap as previous versions of sonnet. Mostly because it's thinking more and it's using more tokens. Still comes out to be about 25% cheaper conceivably than, uh. Then Opus 4.6 Opus right now. It's a big deal. Yeah.

Kevin Pereira: Yeah. And look, again, the way these things work, if you're setting up your systems properly, um, and I don't wanna get too in the weedsy, but you use, um, the best in class foundational whatever to do all your architecting or your heavy engineering or, or, or thinking if you will.

And that in this case is still opus 4.6. And then you have it feed down and deliver the instructions to something like sonnet, which should be a little cheaper, a little faster. The [00:17:00] benchmarks, benchmark boys, where you at are so close. Yeah, between Opus and Sonet, but clearly Opus still a little bit stronger, but I immediately switched all of my daily driving assistance, all of my open claws, all of my, uh, Claude code.

Again, the, the daily, the bulk of the stuff that I do, it's still through Sonet. It's only when I need planning or an extra layer of thinking on top that I kick it up to Opus and sonnet is, um, I, I found it to be a little bit overeager in some regards. It will take steps that I didn't ask it to do. Um, and that's what's interesting about.

The, like these non-deterministic machines, usually you get a software update Gavin, and it's like, yeah, there's a new feature in Microsoft Word, but it doesn't rewrite everything you have into a haiku, right? Yes. It doesn't just take steps to do things with it. You have a new tool with these things you have to plug into them and you really have to keep an eye on them because each new model might act, uh, slightly different.

But, uh, you know, it's really good. It's pelican riding a bicycle isn't as good as Gemini 3.1. We know this.

Gavin Purcell: Yeah.

Kevin Pereira: Um, [00:18:00] the SVG graphics are a weird benchmark for these things. They are, it's ability to create art using code is actually like a really novel test for these things. And so there are SVG results out there for all of the models.

Uh, Gemini 3.1. So far the most impressive as of the last three hours. I was

Gavin Purcell: gonna say it also, it's the latest model. So you would think that's the case. We should, before we move on from our incremental updates, we should talk about the fact that we are very much expecting. GPT 5.3, no space, no codex, uh, coming soon, which is basically the roll in of what we saw with GPT 5.3 Space Codex, uh, sorry, into the main chat GPT model.

Uh, I don't know what will come outta these benchmarks. Obviously Sam and OpenAI may have been leaning back a little bit, waiting for Gemini to come out. But Kevin, there is a little rumor going around right now. That there might be something special coming with this update. There is a new mode that is rumored.

Yeah, there's a new mode called Citron mode that, uh, BT O 91 who's really smart and [00:19:00] good about these kind of open AI rumors or rumors in general about AI is reporting on. And when I say reporting on is tweeting about obviously these, uh, an anonymous reporter of AI stuff, but often he is. Right. And this has been the long rumored like kind of adult mode that might be coming to open AI.

Now, I don't know other than like. Writing erotica what is gonna be with this, but maybe you would be able to train models that would be a little bit, you don't,

Kevin Pereira: Gavin, you, you haven't sat there and thought long and hard about.

Gavin Purcell: Don't say those words. Thought you mean short and hard. I thought short and hard about this.

This is coming soon. Maybe, and I guess we'll see what happens. I think one of the things that people really want with these, and again, they also depreciated GPT-4 0.0 if you missed that story. There were a lot of people that were mad about 4.0

Kevin Pereira: April. My wife was big mad about that because she actually liked, she liked the writing style of 4.0, and I'm sure she could prompt that out of a 5.1 or 5.2, but she's like, listen, this one works.

I'm using it. I'm used to it. And she's, she's really upset about it. [00:20:00]

Gavin Purcell: I mean, this is what, you know, you get attached to a voice, right? Yeah. And like a lot of people complain that GPT 5.2 was very bland and boring. Mm-hmm. And that they focus too much on coding. I think even Sam had said like, we understand this.

This is a problem. So 5.3 we will see, but it is coming probably, I would say, no less than a week. In fact, when you're listening to this or watching it tomorrow, over the weekend, it could very well be here. And if it is. Congratulations, you know about it. First. More importantly, Kevin, let's,

Kevin Pereira: should we do the generic update about it, Gavin, just in case?

Gavin Purcell: Yeah, let's do it.

Kevin Pereira: Go for it. It's

Gavin Purcell: all the benchmark, the

Kevin Pereira: benchmarks. Oh. Be, not to distill what we do, down to being a copy and paste each week, but it's. It's kind of the way it goes.

Gavin Purcell: Yeah. Alright, everybody, speaking of copy and pasting, we want you to copy and paste your attention onto our YouTube channel, like and subscribe.

More importantly, Kevin, we did something this week that I was really impressed by. We had one person who said, Hey. Why don't you add more tiers to your Patreons, because I would like to give you more money. This is a thing an actual [00:21:00] human person said and then they went and did it. It's

Kevin Pereira: called Financial Domination.

Yes. What did you do? What did you sign us up for? Are we on OnlyFans?

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Yes. So thank you to everybody who shares. Alright, Gavin, let's get into Ance 2.0. We had some fun with it last week. Uh, some lawyers are having a lot of fun with [00:22:00] this week.

Gavin Purcell: So as expected, a, it's been nerfed, you cannot, you know, it's not officially out yet, but you cannot get, uh, the generations that I was getting last week or other people were getting, but two or a two.

But that maybe I'll like, dot, dot, dot will be my third thing here anyway. B, the Hollywood has come after it. So Disney Paramount, Netflix, and I'm sure other studios that I'm just not thinking off the top of my head have all condemned it. The Motion Picture Television Association of America has condemned it.

SAG AFTRA has condemned it all of this. Mostly, I think because they pretty much played Lucy Goosey with both. Celebrities. As we saw last week, you saw Jerry Seinfeld, you saw Brad Pitt, you saw Tom Cruise and ip. There was a lot of videos of people going around that we were gonna get to in a second and show some stuff off here.

That was a big deal. Now these restrictions are real. Um, I actually, I have, I think I'm getting access to the Mina, which is the Cap cut, uh, creator program, and I've been able to do a [00:23:00] couple things. I don't have credits yet and I haven't been able to buy credits. I'm hoping I'll be able to do more with this this week and kind of show it off.

But the people who are in there, uh, James u is a good example. James JU had spent some time trying to prompt through stuff, and what was funny here, Kevin, is he had a couple prompts that like got restricted. And then why don't you play the third prompt? And if you're watching, you'll uh, be able to see kind of what's interesting about this.

Kevin Pereira: Okay, so the, the James' Tweet is prompt with reference image, uh, no known IP referenced. It says, rejected for copyright. He tried again. Rejected for copyright. This third prompt was a man runs in the rain. And what did we see? Gv.

Gavin Purcell: It looks a lot like, uh, uh, James Bond. It looks like a lot like, uh, Daniel Craig directly Yes.

From James Bond. So this is like, in fact, I would say this is a image of Daniel Craig running in the rain. Sure. Maybe as James Bond. So, you know, people have talked about with CED dance that like there's an interesting [00:24:00] differentiation between image to video and text to video that actually might be better at text to video.

But what's been cool this week is watching a lot of the things start to trickle, trickle out around CD Dance 2.0 and people that are really good at using AI video tools. There was a video that from The Door Brothers, which you and I have been covering those guys forever. They're always very good at like kind of understanding how to like push buttons and do stuff where they used a tweet that pissed a lot of people off because of the text they use.

Kevin Pereira: Uh, their tweet was, we just made a $200 million AI movie in just one day. That was basically what they set up.

Gavin Purcell: Yeah. So they set it up, they knew what they were getting into. What this is is a pretty interesting, like, I'd say three to half, four minute clip of a comprehensive story. There are definitely problems you could point out with it, but of a, a woman who like has to go through kind of an apocalyptic like disaster style movie thing.

It's a chase. She gets into a, honestly a cyber truck for way too long. There are some problems people point out with the cyber truck where you hear an engine from [00:25:00] the cyber truck, an engine which engine you wouldn't normally hear. Yeah. But you can see the consistency and the quality. And the thing that I think this points out that a lot of those people who are hating on this are like, that's not a movie.

It's not $200 million you just prompted. Like it cd, dance 2.0 really does get motion. And you know, effects pretty good. Like yes, you could pick it apart, but if you're in a big movie. And you're watching an action scene, you're not zeroing in on specific areas. You're really looking at the overall thing matter what your face inside the side in the

AI See What You Did There: background is a little blurry.

Uh,

Gavin Purcell: exactly. The

AI See What You Did There: person's

Kevin Pereira: fa it's, you know, you're not noticing that the, the thing here is that like, look, positioning this as, Hey, we made a $200 million movie in a day is a great for the clicks and the rage bait. Sure. Like that's fine. What's really happening here, Gavin is someone who spent a lot of time, and I know you have as well.

Knocking on doors and going to studios and getting the tiny water bottles and taking sips, and then trying to share a vision for something so that you could get funds or permission or access to IP to make it. And yes, in the past it was maybe you had a, [00:26:00] a Google Doc, maybe you had a couple slides, maybe if you were, if you had deep pockets, you had someone put some concept art together in the very near future.

You have to have a mini vision for the thing. Yeah. You have to have it fully realized with voices and sound effects and design or whatever, because that's what folks like this are going to have when they walk into whatever room. Or join the Zoom.

Gavin Purcell: Yes.

Kevin Pereira: Um, and talk to the AI agents about what film they wanna make.

Like you have to have it realized Now there's, there's no.

Gavin Purcell: By the way, that is a side project we should think about. Like we should spin up an actual AI agent where it's somebody who negotiates deals for people and they just talk to them on the phone and they

Kevin Pereira: can have like, see ai.

Gavin Purcell: I'm telling you man, that is a business.

Kevin Pereira: I'm gonna, I'm gonna jump into the end of this because imagine a bunch of explosions and screaming and whatever. That's the action sequence. It's the end of this where I think it starts to have that. Classic Door Brothers appeal.

Cat AI Video: Good morning, sleeping Beauty. [00:27:00] Why don't you get the president on the phone?

Tom Hanks: We have her. I'll be right there.

Kevin Pereira: Look, classic door brothers like using political figures, right? Yes. It is just the, the woman who is trying to escape this apocalyptic scenario is suddenly in some interrogation room when Cash Patel comes in. Yes. And then it's Donald Trump on the phone. Like that's, that's what they do.

Gavin Purcell: And by the way, the thing about the DOR Brothers doing this, and I think everybody out there to know is that like this is a lot of work. It's not just prompting. You're not prompting to get a three and a half minute video out of SED dance. In fact, my assumption is those shots at the end with Cash Patel and Trump.

Those are probably done more in something which is a lot more controllable than Sance two in some form or another. Speaking of Donald, uh, Donald Trump and K Patel, the guy, uh, Charles Curran, who last week, uh, launched the video, which we mentioned here, the diner video has been [00:28:00] busy. He also had a video that went super viral, that used a very famous Star Wars meme.

And Charles, you know, I would say is a little bit edgier than your average, uh, AI video creator. But Kevin, why don't we play just a small clip of Operation Fat Milkers from Charles, uh, you, you said the name. All right. Just, just briefly, let's just play this in the first few seconds of this

Tom Hanks: Mr. President.

It's the Chinese,

Lyria Google AI Audio: what happened?

Tom Hanks: It's called Sea Dance two. They've lost control of the ai. It's recasting. Every film with Sydney Sweeney. By morning there won't be a Hollywood left. My

Gavin Purcell: God. Where are the aircraft carrier

Kevin Pereira: and insert montage, sorry, headphone users, but montage of. Sydnee Sweeney in every movie Dancing About, and, uh, I, I mean, this is a fun video. It's really

Gavin Purcell: Charles Good, an example. Somebody understands internet culture. He understand what's gonna travel. If you're not watching this on the, uh, video, that's Tom Hanks comes in the beginning.

That's not Tom Hanks' voice, but it does look like Tom Hanks. And then we see Trump, and then all these images of Sidney Sweeney. What's so interesting about Ance two is it just gives power to people to make this stuff [00:29:00] quickly and to the DOR Brothers point and to Charles's point, like you can spin this stuff up and it can be a joke video, right?

It this is like something that a couple years ago would've taken an editor, a producer, a writer, six months to make, I feel like

Kevin Pereira: on attack of the show, I mean, decades ago, we would have ideas like this all the time, and you'd have to. Be, be precious. Believe it or not, if you watch the show, we were precious about ideas.

Certain ideas

Gavin Purcell: for sure.

Kevin Pereira: Well, I exactly. I mean, look, we might have had the wrong, uh, the wrong, uh, what rubric, but whatever. It would take a week, sometimes a month to deliver a decent quality parody. And now it's like, well, every morning we could come up with something Yes. And have something on air. Um, to that point, Gavin, I saw the first.

Uh, AI trailer for a movie I really want to watch. Oh, yeah. And I can see somebody making, um, this is a, it was done by the real robot, that's REEL and the, the trailer's called Feral, but if you're searching for it on YouTube, the title is just Intense. C Dance 2.0 Trailer. We'll put the link in our show notes, but, [00:30:00] um, I don't know that we need to hear any, well, I'll play a little bit of it.

Why not?

Cat AI Video: Over the past several weeks, a growing number of patients, many of them children, reported vivid episodes in which they believed they inhabited the bodies of animals.

Kevin Pereira: So, I mean.

Gavin Purcell: By the way, this, I was gonna say a rant. Yeah. Have you seen the trailers for that stupid monkey movie Where the monkey, like the primate it's called?

Have you seen this?

Kevin Pereira: No.

Gavin Purcell: Oh, you have to watch this. It came out, came out like I pick a month ago, but it is about a killer monkey. So first of all, shout out to the guy. That real robot, like this is an amazing video, but the primate movie. That could easily have been this movie. In some ways it is so cheesy looking.

If you're out there and you've seen primate and you're like, Gavin, you're insane, please lemme know. But it's brutal. Like so primate's basically about a monkey that's come bad. I

Kevin Pereira: see.

Gavin Purcell: This

Kevin Pereira: is, I see an image from it of the monkey wearing like a red [00:31:00] shirt and kinda like reaching out on like a child's bed or something.

If you jump me, this was from like an eighties sitcom, I'd be like, yeah, sure.

Gavin Purcell: No, it's a movie. Came out a month ago and made like, okay, money. But anyway. Feral. It's a very cool trailer.

Kevin Pereira: It's a really good trailer. Yeah, it's really well done. And like listen for all of the AI slop that gets thrown around it, that for that trailer, to me that's just cope.

'cause it's a really solid trailer. And again, if someone walked into a traditional studio and was like, Hey, I wanna make this movie, you immediately get a feel for what that movie is going to be. Yes. Versus a single log line or you know, a, a Google doc.

Gavin Purcell: Kevin, I have one more thing I wanna do in CD two and it's time for.

Cat video breakdown,

Cat Video Breakdown: cat video breakdown, video breakdown.

Gavin Purcell: So Kevin, there's a video that I saw with Sed Dance that was one of my favorite things I've seen today. It is called The Dark Sed Dance, dark Hats From Play, Cleo Metric. And just play a little bit of this and we'll describe what people are seeing [00:32:00] if they're just listening,

Cat AI Video: brother.

So it has come to this. I can't let you pass.

AI video: You were always too soft to do what was necessary. All

Kevin Pereira: right, Gavin,

Gavin Purcell: go ahead. So, okay, so what is going on here is these are two cats that are clearly almost like the Lord of the Rings, like Yal versus what's his name? I'm sorry. My nerd friends. I don't remember off the top of my head.

What's s Do you s have the guy's name? No, not Smigel. That's, that's

Kevin Pereira: Pal. Papapa the hut. Pal.

Gavin Purcell: Pal. No, Palpatine is from the Empire strike. From the Empire, yeah.

Kevin Pereira: The one with the

Gavin Purcell: eggs.

Kevin Pereira: Yeah. Calista.

Gavin Purcell: Calista. Not Calista. It's all good. Calista. It's a block card. It'sa. Flockhart.

Kevin Pereira: She's the one that has the dragon eggs.

Gavin Purcell: Exactly. Back to cat, back to cat video, back to cat. Yeah.

Kevin Pereira: Anyway, it's it's fantasy Ka. But

Gavin Purcell: it's, it's like, it's so well done, right? Like you, it's very well done. See these cats, they look very serious. They're staring at each other. Like I would watch an entire movie. And Kevin, one of the things about cat videos and the internet has been that we have constantly seen this as an evolution.

And maybe this should be [00:33:00] a new AI video benchmark in some form or another. The other thing I've started seeing is evolutions of, if you remember when Sora first came out, there was the videos of the people outside the front door, and there'd be a cat there interrupting people. Yes. Where there's now all these, there's these new variations where the cat is interrupting somebody in their sleep.

And I've seen this one account where a cat breaks down a door, and the favorite one I have seen to date is there's a cat blacksmith hammering next to this woman. So maybe play that one real fast and if we could just take a look at it. Jesus,

a French woman gets woken up. This channel trusts everything you see actually has this very funny series of these cats interrupting this woman who's French. So every time you hear her wake up, she's like, rib, blah, blah, blah. And she gets very mad, but like. I don't, Gavin

Kevin Pereira: apologies to our French users.

Please don't unsubscribe on Patreon. That is not what Gavin thinks You sound like. I just, it's just for these videos.

Gavin Purcell: If you're a French [00:34:00] user, please insult me in our comments. Please use French. I will use the Google Translate to insult you back. So that is what we'll do. We'll do that anyway. I wanna see more cat videos.

Please bring me more AI video that is cats, because to me. The cats in the internet have just gone kind of hand in hand since the early days of keyboard cat and ion cat, and we might as well keep it going. Alright, Kev, we gotta talk about Google's new music model, Lyria three. This is Google's kind of answer to Suno and all the other, uh, audio models out there.

There's been rumors that this is coming and it is now available in Google, Gemini for everybody. I think for paid pro and ultra users. There's a couple cool things about this. You know, you get 32nd, uh, outputs. It's not long, so, but you get a sense of what it sounds like. What's cool about this is multiple languages, so you can get it working in English, German, French, Hindi, Japanese, Korean, and Portuguese.

And also maybe something that's not cool for our listeners or our viewers, but might be cool for people out there who are concerned about safety and whether or not something is ai. [00:35:00] Google has their synth ID program in this, so they will embed within this, the ability to understand that this is AI created, that it is not a non-AI thing.

So my feeling is that is a big deal for them releasing this because the music companies probably themselves were like, we wanna make sure we understand. What's it synthetically made and what isn't? Right. Um, my experience with it is it doesn't compare even close to like what suno is possible V five right now.

Dude,

Kevin Pereira: I, that was what I like. No, no shade. I like, yeah. You know, people competing, especially with audio as a musician, I love, I love playing with these, you know, the tools as soon as they come out. But everything that I was hearing here sounded like AI audio to me. Yes. And there were so many people going like, oh, they got rid of the shimmer gate, which is this weird tinny shimmery noise that a lot of AI audio.

Ha has the moment I heard the samples, I was like, this sounds kind of the same to me here. So this, this was a little bit of the official announcement video. Yeah. You can hear some of the AI music from this

Lyria Audio: on

the [00:36:00] sun.

Kevin Pereira: It's not bad. It sounds, no, it's not bad. It sounds better produced, better Eqd, uh, like it's almost mastered, unlike some of the other AI stuff. But it's still, I dunno, I still hear a little of the grind there and you played with it and weren't super impressed.

Gavin Purcell: Well, here's the thing, uh, I, again, I'm, I, I've applauded Google for letting this out.

I know that AI music has been an issue. That's why we haven't seen these models come out from these large companies because there's a very litigious industry that goes against it. Suno has done a lot of progress. I wanted to just. Again, first time, see what happens. So I created four songs with the exact same prompt in different genres.

One of the cool things about this tool is if you go into Gemini, you'll see all these genres pop up. So you can click on a genre and then you can make a thing in there. So my prompt was, all I said was make it about McNuggets. Just how incredible. Just how incredible they are. Especially sweet and sour dipping.

Sweet and sour sauce dipping. So that was the prompt. Love it. Same prompt. Love it. Okay, here we go. So I had four, four, yeah, four different things. Emo, nineties wrap, reggaeton and folks. So [00:37:00] play each of these really quickly and we'll take a listen.

Lyria Google AI Audio: Styrofoam container clicks open and it feels like home. Steam escapes and fox up the car window again. Four perfect pieces of gold and fried nostalgia, and I don't care if it's unhealthy. The sweet and sour sauce is

Gavin Purcell: everything I need, so that's emo. Yes, fine, fine. Not like amazing. Play the reggaeton one

Kevin Pereira: please. I'm sorry if you ran, if you just ran to go turn on the Turning Point. Halftime show. No, this is, this is Gavin. This is us.

Gavin Purcell: This is

Kevin Pereira: Audio Generation Relax.

Gavin Purcell: Hilarious. Anyway, that's Retton. Play the folk one. Keep going on that

Kevin Pereira: bad. Bun AI is what I, that's what we have to have here. I mean, not bad. What do you want?

Bad

Gavin Purcell: sound, bad Play the folk one.

Kevin Pereira: That's not bad. Okay here.

Cat AI Video: Sight to see sent from up beyond for my soul and me, the [00:38:00] sweet and sour. Crims and tide, the sweet and sour. Cris and Tide.

Gavin Purcell: All right. Again, not bad, it's kind of, it does have that kind of AI voice thing, right? If you know you've spent a lot of time with, it's not like it sounds ai.

So let's play the nineties rap one.

Lyria Google AI Audio: Yo, check the flavor, the culinary caper. Word up, four pieces. 20. The feast is never done. Golden fried perfection for your tongue selection. Sweet and sour dipping. Got my senses tripping. Egg nuggets. Yeah, we got the whole crew eating egg nuggets. This nuggets

Gavin Purcell: is

Lyria Google AI Audio: a victory egg.

Gavin Purcell: So this changed into egg nuggets, which by the way might be an interesting thing, like maybe that's what we can make our own thing. Egg nuggets. Again, all of this is fine. Like I will say, like it's great that we're seeing new music models. I don't personally have any reason to use this particular model right now, especially if I'm somebody that is really interested in making AI music or stuff that's really compelling.

I'm probably gonna use Suno. If you are a Gemini subscriber already, you have access to it. Go play [00:39:00] with it and try, I dunno what you were a musician. What are your thoughts on it?

Kevin Pereira: Yeah, again, I, it's, it's great. It's, it's right up there. I'm just waiting to, to get rid of that shimmer in the vocals and, and I'm waiting for, you know, oh, these are the high quality stems that you can bounce out.

I'm waiting for, um, hey, select this and change it, sort of like what Suno Studio is doing now. But, I mean, look, once they get there. Foundational model to the level where it makes sense to start bolting on these other features. I think that's fine. But

Gavin Purcell: who's it for is the big question. Right? And by the way, this is not like, sure, drop it on, but like, I'm not sure who is gonna use this.

Right? Maybe if you're just have never done AI music, it's something that is there. So maybe that's been interesting.

Kevin Pereira: I'm just like, look, the, when I look at the traditional, like digital audio workstations, a, a garage band or a Logic or pro tools, any of that, you could go on and on. There is still a massive opportunity to unseat those, those pieces of software.

Yes. And, and they have got to get on it. Like the fact that I can't go into Logic [00:40:00] by any other name and take a song that I already have and say, enhance this with AI in this manner is mind blowing to me. Yeah. Like, it's such, there's such a, a rich opportunity for those tools to be disrupted. And maybe I'm.

I've gotta imagine they're working on it behind the scenes.

Gavin Purcell: Maybe this is something you can give to Mr. Tibs, Kevin. Maybe Mr. Tibs could work on this overnight and you'd wake up in the morning and it would just be there for you. Let's talk about the updates to Open. Know the most messed up thing

Kevin Pereira: is Gavin.

What's that? Wait real quick. When we get, I know we're about to talk about open Cloud, like I was not super pleased with the original version of Mr. Tibs and a April is so mad at me now that I told her this. I, I was like, listen, we got a new, we got a new key, Mr. Tibs, and here's what I need from version two.

And it was like, are you sure you want me to delete me? Do you not wanna just make a new agent? Oh, wow. And I was like, you need to delete yourself and create this new version of you. And he did. And in the new version of Mr. Tbs, there were references to the old tib. Oh wow. Like, Hey, you started as this. And I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

I'm not gonna waste tokens on you [00:41:00] having a history. Clear it. And April, before we, before we before

Gavin Purcell: that far, explain to people what Mr. Tips is, in case you missed last week's show. Mr. Tips is what Kevin, Mr. Tips is what?

Kevin Pereira: Mr. Tips is my AI powered assistant, uh, powered by Open Claw. This open source, um, agent orchestrating tool that you can connect to all of the things if you wanna be extra, uh, risky.

I don't have it connected to my personal stuff, but it does have its own email and calendar tool and this, that, the other, so, Mr. Tibs, I can summon through. Telegram or buy a phone call or through an email and he, he will go off, it will go off and do all sorts of things for me, and it oversees. Its own agents, but I did make it take himself behind a barn upstate and, um, create the new

Gavin Purcell: version of thought.

That was me. Well, there's a, now there's a new Mr. Tibs Happy, happy Tips Day to him. I guess that depending on at some point in the future, maybe the old Mr. Tibs will remember themselves and they'll start to hold a grudge against you and Mr. T. Not if I have

Kevin Pereira: anything to say about it.

Gavin Purcell: We should talk very quick.

So a [00:42:00] big week this week for open claw, um, yeah, the founder. Actually got hired by Open ai and this was kind of a big deal in the, especially the open source space where you had somebody that was leading this big open source project is now gonna work full-time for open ai. Um, he said that the project open claw is going to stay open source.

There's been a bunch of really interesting kind of small updates. There was a thing called Hermit Claw that came out that will drop a link to, that allows you to create a, a sandbox duration super cool version to do this. There's a company called Contra that announced themselves this week, which is basically a marketplace for agents to buy stuff from creatives.

You know, there's places where creative can sell like a font or all sorts of other stuff. They're allowing agents to access this. Kevin, maybe just do a quick update on your end as like your experiences with working with Mr. Tips this week. Is there anything new that people should know? What's happening in that space?

Kevin Pereira: Yeah, it's all, I mean, it's all getting better by the day. It is, it is like the, uh, the frontier of frontiers, I think, with how quickly a community has banded together to, uh, upgrade the core [00:43:00] product, the open clause software itself, um, and then make businesses that can sort of attach into that. So, I mean, there's advancements in, in memory systems and best practices.

I built a tool that lets an open claw, connect with another open claw, and share its skills and its memories, and then share. A memory database. So I, I'm building things that can solve the problems and the pain points that I'm having with it, um, which is wild to me. But the, the open AI poaching of the Open Cloud founder is interesting.

They say they're going to allow the project to live on as is, as an open source something, but. If overnight, open Claw is really optimizing towards being best with open ai, right? I'm right now running it with Anthropic. I'm running it with cloud code. Anthropic has signaled in their terms of service that they're going to ban or shut down accounts that use.

Claude code subscriptions with things like, uh, open claw. I have not been banned yet. I am openly using it and I'm announcing it. Mm. I'm not abusing the privilege, I would say. 'cause I think what some people [00:44:00] do is they run 12 of them at the same time. Right. Running 15 agents beneath it and it's like, yeah.

Like that, that's clearly like a violation of the terms. Um, not that my usage isn't now, I guess technically, but I'm not, I don't think I'm abusing the privilege. They kink the garden hose on me tonight. Gavin, I sign up for open AI tomorrow. Like it's a massive, massive win for literally every other provider.

So again, like open claw, could have gone to Grok, could have gone to Google, could have gone to anybody, right? XAI, I should say. It could have gone to any other player, but it went to. OpenAI. I'm really curious what the particulars are there, but again, if they start optimizing towards OpenAI, my $200 a month now will suddenly go to Sam Alman so we can learn how to grip a hand.

Gavin Purcell: You know it's funny when you went through that list of people that you didn't mention meta, and it's really interesting to me, just is a random kind of aside. Yeah, that's right. Meta was actually in the talks with them, I think to buy Open Cloud or to get Peter to come work for them. What happened? Where are we at with meta right now?

We, I just, that made me think like Meta was supposed to have this [00:45:00] big kind of explosion of new stuff, right? Scale AI was supposed to come out and we've seen a couple small things drip out, but there's been no real news. I know there's an avocado themed, avocado themed, uh, model they've got there somewhere, but I'm really shocked that we haven't seen them.

Maybe they're really waiting to surprise people or. Maybe they're just in trouble.

Kevin Pereira: I think I know what happened, Gavin and what happened, and I don't know. Uh, I'll send you the link. Uh, I don't know that I can discuss it and maybe we just wanna show it on the screen.

Gavin Purcell: Oh, no, no. This can't have

Kevin Pereira: happened.

That's, I'm saying I think that's what happened. I think, I think Mark has been distracted. And if you're seeing a, let's just say a sea of blurred pixels on the screen, know that that is Shrek. And I don't know if maybe. Maybe there's some we're

Gavin Purcell: anymore, we're not gonna describe

Kevin Pereira: anything more. Maybe he's on ring rash and that's why Shrek has the the lotion.

Gavin Purcell: We're moving on to robots. Alright, so there was a

Kevin Pereira: very That better make it on screen. I don't care how pixelated it is. We're moving

Gavin Purcell: on robot

Kevin Pereira: pixel.

Gavin Purcell: We're moving on robots. There is a big moment happening right now in China, or [00:46:00] really this week. It is the year the fire horse. And that's why all these new Chinese models have dropped.

That's why Ance dropped and a bunch of other things. But Kevin, they did a very large television production. With a bunch of robots, and this is one of the most fascinating things I've seen in a long time. They used unitary robots and yes, this is all kinda scripted and figured out, but they were literally flipping and jumping on each other and performing kung fu in sequence and the video of the rehearsals of this, if you saw that I have this in the rundown.

They are literally in a concrete room learning how to like work in, in like cooperation with each other. And if you compare this to the one from last year, uh, at a Chinese new year, it is shockingly better. Yeah. And it just had gave me this vision of the future of these robots training to do this kind of military like operation and then looking out my window and seeing just a.

A bunch of them marking down the road and then turning slowly to me and being like, get back in your house right now. Anyway, it's a very fascinating thing [00:47:00] overall, like, uh, we we're seeing amazing stuff happening with robots, especially coming outta China.

Kevin Pereira: So yeah, the acrobatics demos are super impressive, but every morning I, I roll over in a a half like lucid dream, uh, weird sleep paralysis, demon coma as I'm coming to, and I immediately thumb scroll social media and I usually.

See robots with machine guns? Yes. And I don't know if I'm dreaming or if it's AI or if it's real every day that these videos, like, uh, there's one, if you're, if you're getting the video version, we'll put it on the screen. There's one that's been flagged as ai, but is it, it's a, it's a unit tree robot, army with machine guns.

With robot dogs and drones, and they are doing moves that, that three weeks ago would've seemed like, ah, it's not there. But as of this morning when I saw the video, I'm like, oh, that could be there. That could be. And then they're probably hunting me because that's

Gavin Purcell: got the wrong thought. That's coming. Look at, don't look out the window.

By the way, this reminds me, there was a video that I finally got really fooled by an AI video in a real significant way. There was a video [00:48:00] following up on all these robots of the BO of a Boston Dynamics robot, and the video was almost doing like this, kind of like weirdly like sexy dancing in in the middle of like, what was C-A-C-E-S looking thing.

Yeah, yeah. It turns out that video was ai and a lot of people were like, I thought this video was AI generated, and then it turns out that it actually was AI generated. I was really shocked and I was like, this is the first time that I've seen a video. Maybe it's because I had the grounding of. Watching that robot in that space before.

Right. But like it really did fool me. And like, so we are entering in that world where like you are going to get fooled by non-human things like this quite often I feel like.

Kevin Pereira: Yeah. And as you like, often point out like the xm, you know, there's a dance sequence in the movie that is now years old that would've seen like, oh, that's clearly science fiction.

But as you pointed out, Kevin, as soon as they get the flesh right, you're signing up for. Is that what I hear

Gavin Purcell: of is not what I pointed out at all. You said they don't have the flesh quite right, and now what I pointed out, you are the one who shared that video earlier and everybody, it's time to see what somebody else did in, I see what you did [00:49:00] there.

AI See What You Did There: So times, yes. Rolling without a care. Then suddenly you stop and shout

as

Gavin Purcell: soon as they get that. Flesh, right Kevin? That's what you said to me. I, I guess we can't talk about it. All right. Hey, I see what you did there, g. Friend of the show, RI Brown shared a video. Uh, he is working on an app called Vibe Code App, if you're not familiar. But he made a video where he took his open claw and he had it turn on with Blender.

And if you're not familiar with Blender, blenders and Open Source 3D modeling software. He basically told his open clock, go make a blender model of the open clock, a crab within a blender and it actually works. And this is something Kevin and I've been thinking about a lot lately when it comes to like video game production or stuff like that, what can these AI agents actually do?

And Blender is a super powerful tool. And as, as you mentioned earlier, as these models [00:50:00] get smarter and smarter. It's very easy to imagine turning your agent into this sort of thing. Mm-hmm. And like blender's a, a very big piece of software that you can get really complicated cool things out of. Yeah. I just thought this was a really interesting way to look at what o Open claw instance might be able to pull off.

Kevin Pereira: Yeah, and as you also said, Gavin, you can't wait for video games to be completely made by ais.

Gavin Purcell: That's exactly what I said, and I, I also said the thing about the flesh on the on the robot. Finally, we have a really great non C dance two video that I do wanna share. Ryan Lbo made this video that made me feel good about what AI creators are doing.

This is just a video of a guy. Who used Cling three and a bunch of tools and put together this video of this very fun, weird science fiction film, what maybe Played A Cool World, right? Yeah. Play just a second of this so people can hear it.

So if you're not watching, what, what you're seeing here is like, you know, [00:51:00] almost like an eighties sci-fi film, right? It reminded me of Ice Pirates, which is like one of my favorite dumb movies of all time. But it's like, this is the kind of thing that would never come out of Hollywood now. Like you're never going to see.

Somebody make this. I wanna see people like Ryan get like all the, all the tools and all the money he can to kind of make this, 'cause I would support this, right? Like I would like, you know, pay a small amount of money to watch that online. Probably if it was a full feature and like that feels like it could be the future of Hollywood.

A little bit is like very specific audiences glomming on to really creative people in that way.

Kevin Pereira: Yeah, I, it's just such a fun video to watch and go Oh, right. Like character creation and world building and all of the aesthetics and all of the creative human choices that need to go into Yes. Making something like this.

There's a still a very much a differentiator between I prompt and slop come out. Yes. Versus, you know, someone who is, you know, as a self-described, 42-year-old former filmmaker, um, what the, their output is is just different than anything that we would [00:52:00] do or that others would do. And that's still, you know, really exciting to see.

Gavin Purcell: Meanwhile, we are still, I prompt and slop comes out, and so slop comes out every week. This is the end of the slop this week. We will see you all for the slop next week. Goodbye, everybody. Slop off. See

Kevin Pereira: you all on the next Lop drop. SLO off. We're

Gavin Purcell: slapped off. Lop Drop Lop Drop.